Leader

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse

Firehouse.com Forum Rules & Guidelines

Forum Rules & Guidelines

Not Permitted or Tolerated:
• Advertising and/or links of commercial, for-profit websites, products, and/or services is not permitted. If you have a need to advertise on Firehouse.com please contact [email protected]
• Fighting/arguing
• Cyber-bullying
• Swearing
• Name-calling and/or personal attacks
• Spamming
• Typing in all CAPS
• “l33t speak” - Substituting characters for letters in an effort to represent a word or phrase. (example: M*****ive)
• Distribution of another person’s personal information, regardless of whether or not said information is public knowledge and whether or not an individual has permission to post said personal information
• Piracy advocation of any kind
• Racist, sexual, hate type defamatory, religious, political, or sexual commentary.
• Multiple forum accounts

Forum Posting Guidelines:

Posts must be on-topic, non-disruptive and relevant to the firefighting community. Post only in a mature and responsible way that contributes to the discussion at hand. Posting relevant information, helpful suggestions and/or constructive criticism is a great way to contribute to the community.

Post in the correct forum and have clear titles for your threads.

Please post in English or provide a translation.

There are moderators and admins who handle these forums with care, do not resort to self-help, instead please utilize the reporting option. Be mature and responsible for yourself and your posts. If you are offended by another member utilize the reporting option. All reported posts will be addressed and dealt with as deemed appropriate by Firehouse.com staff.

Firehouse.com Moderation Process:
Effective immediately, the following moderation process will take effect. User(s) whose posts are determined by Firehouse.com staff to be in violation of any of the rules above will EARN the following reprimand(s) in the moderation process:
1. An initial warning will be issued.
2. A Final Warning will be issued if a user is found to be in violation a second time.
3. A 3-day suspension will be issued if the user continues to break the forum rules.
4. A 45-day suspension will be issued if the user is found to be a habitual rule breaker.
5. Habitual rule breakers that have exhausted all of the above will receive a permanent life-time ban that will be strictly enforced. Reinstatement will not be allowed – there is no appeal process.

Subsequent accounts created in an effort to side-step the rules and moderation process are subject to automatic removal without notice. Firehouse.com reserves the right to expedite the reprimand process for any users as it is deemed necessary. Any user in the moderation process may be required to review and agree to by email the terms and conditions listed above before their account is re-instated (except for those that are banned).

Firehouse.com reserves the right to edit and/or remove any post or member, at any time, for any reason without notice. Firehouse.com also reserves the right to warn, suspend, and/or ban, any member, at any time, for any reason.

Firehouse.com values the active participation we have in our forums. Please ensure your posts are tasteful and tactful. Thank you very much for your cooperation.
See more
See less

When holding a nozzle, what does the term "keep your pimp hand loose" mean?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • aaron fields
    replied
    I do get east, usually several times a year. I typically do a series of classes on the trips.

    I keep a mostly up to date class list on the website, www.nozzleforward.com

    Aaron

    Leave a comment:


  • captnjak
    replied
    Originally posted by aaron fields View Post
    I didn't take anything as an insult, I am a fellow of good humor. The phrase is meant to include humor to get folks to remember to move the line while applying water.

    I am just a dude who crawls hallways with a nozzle. I have never pretended or claimed to be original. I was lucky enough to be able to find mentorship in some of the best engine company folks in the country early on in my career. I never set out to instruct anything, but eight years ago was asked to "show what I am doing." Now, all I am doing is sharing my toolset, like my mentors did for me. The Nozzle Forward is the sum total of my efforts in being systematic in practicing and teaching the required skills. It is my tweaks and alterations to long standing methods and techniques. I am always clear in citing my sources. Nevertheless, the program is a systematic approach of application as well as a system understanding and solving issues that are faced by engines.

    So, Capt, it is possible that the whole program would be review. But, I will hold you an audit spot in any class in your area, so that you can come out and have some fun flowing water and moving lines with us. In the end f the two days you will be able to say with certainty, that the program is review. The calendar can be found at www.nozzleforward.com


    Regards,

    Aaron Fields
    Generous offer and I appreciate it, but I'll pass. I too was mentored by some incredible enginemen in my day. I still occasionally am, although the riding of the backstep part of my career has passed.

    You don't get very far east, do you?
    Last edited by captnjak; 03-16-2015, 04:53 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • aaron fields
    replied
    I didn't take anything as an insult, I am a fellow of good humor. The phrase is meant to include humor to get folks to remember to move the line while applying water.

    I am just a dude who crawls hallways with a nozzle. I have never pretended or claimed to be original. I was lucky enough to be able to find mentorship in some of the best engine company folks in the country early on in my career. I never set out to instruct anything, but eight years ago was asked to "show what I am doing." Now, all I am doing is sharing my toolset, like my mentors did for me. The Nozzle Forward is the sum total of my efforts in being systematic in practicing and teaching the required skills. It is my tweaks and alterations to long standing methods and techniques. I am always clear in citing my sources. Nevertheless, the program is a systematic approach of application as well as a system understanding and solving issues that are faced by engines.

    So, Capt, it is possible that the whole program would be review. But, I will hold you an audit spot in any class in your area, so that you can come out and have some fun flowing water and moving lines with us. In the end f the two days you will be able to say with certainty, that the program is review. The calendar can be found at www.nozzleforward.com


    Regards,

    Aaron Fields

    Leave a comment:


  • captnjak
    replied
    Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Aaron is a great instructor. If you do nothing else, watch some of his youtube videos just to see how much a whole lot of fireman DON'T KNOW about one of the most basic functions of our job - holding a hose line.

    http://youtu.be/uKtGvR5mksk
    For the record, I did not intend to insult Aaron. Just having some fun with the "pimp hand" thing. I'm not familiar with his course. I can't imagine there is anything I would find in it that I haven't already been exposed to along the way.

    Leave a comment:


  • slackjawedyokel
    replied
    And at the risk of sounding like one of those bearded guys from LA (Lower Arkansas) -I usually use holding a shot gun duck hunting as a reference when teaching the guys to keep the "nozzle forward" -don't know anything bout slappinghoes

    Leave a comment:


  • slackjawedyokel
    replied
    Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Aaron is a great instructor. If you do nothing else, watch some of his youtube videos just to see how much a whole lot of fireman DON'T KNOW about one of the most basic functions of our job - holding a hose line.

    http://youtu.be/uKtGvR5mksk
    agreed -I have seen some videos --- but what the he11 is a pimp hand ?

    Leave a comment:


  • MemphisE34a
    replied
    Aaron is a great instructor. If you do nothing else, watch some of his youtube videos just to see how much a whole lot of fireman DON'T KNOW about one of the most basic functions of our job - holding a hose line.

    http://youtu.be/uKtGvR5mksk

    Leave a comment:


  • captnjak
    replied
    Well Thanks for making it all clear!

    I'm more confused than I was before about this whole pimp hand thing.

    Leave a comment:


  • aaron fields
    replied
    Someone I know pointed this thread out to me and since the saying, in this context, originated in the an engine company class I teach called the "Nozzle Forward," I figured I would answer.

    The saying is a way I key folks to remember to keep the line moving while making an attack, albeit confinement or extinguishment. This is specific to when we are gong into details regarding water and air movement with a nozzle and the "why's" to keeping the line moving, with regards to taking and making space while making interior attacks.

    I prefer to use humor than macho B.S., but it is a trick that sticks with folks and the lines keep moving.

    Regards,
    Aaron Fields

    Leave a comment:


  • captnjak
    replied
    Originally posted by EastKyFF
    The pimp hand is usually too busy holding a goblet or swinging a cane to do much firefighting, so I'm lost.
    Or smacking a ho. But only if she needs it and it's for her own good.

    Leave a comment:


  • captnjak
    replied
    Never heard it in this neck of the woods.

    Leave a comment:


  • BoxAlarm187
    replied
    After doing some research, I found out that this term comes from Aaron Fields very popular "Nozzle Forward" class and is used to make a point about keeping your hand OFF the pistol grip.
    Last edited by BoxAlarm187; 02-10-2015, 04:29 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • rsqman
    replied
    Originally posted by patzyboi View Post
    Serious question. When holding a nozzle, what does the term "keep your pimp hand loose" mean?
    It must be a very localized phrase. I've been in the fire service 48 years next month all over the world and I've heard a lot of strange fire dept phrases but never this one.

    Mike

    Leave a comment:


  • HBofCJ
    replied
    I do not know. HB of CJ (old coot) I think, (dangerous for me) that it MIGHT MEAN keeping one hand on the shut off at all times? Dunno. No disrespect implied or intended.

    Leave a comment:


  • When holding a nozzle, what does the term "keep your pimp hand loose" mean?

    Serious question.

300x600 Ad Unit (In-View)

Collapse

Upper 300x250

Collapse

Taboola

Collapse

Leader

Collapse
Working...
X