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When holding a nozzle, what does the term "keep your pimp hand loose" mean?

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  • When holding a nozzle, what does the term "keep your pimp hand loose" mean?

    Serious question.

  • #2
    I do not know. HB of CJ (old coot) I think, (dangerous for me) that it MIGHT MEAN keeping one hand on the shut off at all times? Dunno. No disrespect implied or intended.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by patzyboi View Post
      Serious question. When holding a nozzle, what does the term "keep your pimp hand loose" mean?
      It must be a very localized phrase. I've been in the fire service 48 years next month all over the world and I've heard a lot of strange fire dept phrases but never this one.

      Mike

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      • #4
        After doing some research, I found out that this term comes from Aaron Fields very popular "Nozzle Forward" class and is used to make a point about keeping your hand OFF the pistol grip.
        Last edited by BoxAlarm187; 02-10-2015, 05:29 PM.
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        • #5
          Never heard it in this neck of the woods.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by EastKyFF
            The pimp hand is usually too busy holding a goblet or swinging a cane to do much firefighting, so I'm lost.
            Or smacking a ho. But only if she needs it and it's for her own good.

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            • #7
              Someone I know pointed this thread out to me and since the saying, in this context, originated in the an engine company class I teach called the "Nozzle Forward," I figured I would answer.

              The saying is a way I key folks to remember to keep the line moving while making an attack, albeit confinement or extinguishment. This is specific to when we are gong into details regarding water and air movement with a nozzle and the "why's" to keeping the line moving, with regards to taking and making space while making interior attacks.

              I prefer to use humor than macho B.S., but it is a trick that sticks with folks and the lines keep moving.

              Regards,
              Aaron Fields

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              • #8
                Well Thanks for making it all clear!

                I'm more confused than I was before about this whole pimp hand thing.

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                • #9
                  Aaron is a great instructor. If you do nothing else, watch some of his youtube videos just to see how much a whole lot of fireman DON'T KNOW about one of the most basic functions of our job - holding a hose line.

                  http://youtu.be/uKtGvR5mksk
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
                    Aaron is a great instructor. If you do nothing else, watch some of his youtube videos just to see how much a whole lot of fireman DON'T KNOW about one of the most basic functions of our job - holding a hose line.

                    http://youtu.be/uKtGvR5mksk
                    agreed -I have seen some videos --- but what the he11 is a pimp hand ?
                    ?

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                    • #11
                      And at the risk of sounding like one of those bearded guys from LA (Lower Arkansas) -I usually use holding a shot gun duck hunting as a reference when teaching the guys to keep the "nozzle forward" -don't know anything bout slappinghoes
                      ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
                        Aaron is a great instructor. If you do nothing else, watch some of his youtube videos just to see how much a whole lot of fireman DON'T KNOW about one of the most basic functions of our job - holding a hose line.

                        http://youtu.be/uKtGvR5mksk
                        For the record, I did not intend to insult Aaron. Just having some fun with the "pimp hand" thing. I'm not familiar with his course. I can't imagine there is anything I would find in it that I haven't already been exposed to along the way.

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                        • #13
                          I didn't take anything as an insult, I am a fellow of good humor. The phrase is meant to include humor to get folks to remember to move the line while applying water.

                          I am just a dude who crawls hallways with a nozzle. I have never pretended or claimed to be original. I was lucky enough to be able to find mentorship in some of the best engine company folks in the country early on in my career. I never set out to instruct anything, but eight years ago was asked to "show what I am doing." Now, all I am doing is sharing my toolset, like my mentors did for me. The Nozzle Forward is the sum total of my efforts in being systematic in practicing and teaching the required skills. It is my tweaks and alterations to long standing methods and techniques. I am always clear in citing my sources. Nevertheless, the program is a systematic approach of application as well as a system understanding and solving issues that are faced by engines.

                          So, Capt, it is possible that the whole program would be review. But, I will hold you an audit spot in any class in your area, so that you can come out and have some fun flowing water and moving lines with us. In the end f the two days you will be able to say with certainty, that the program is review. The calendar can be found at www.nozzleforward.com


                          Regards,

                          Aaron Fields

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by aaron fields View Post
                            I didn't take anything as an insult, I am a fellow of good humor. The phrase is meant to include humor to get folks to remember to move the line while applying water.

                            I am just a dude who crawls hallways with a nozzle. I have never pretended or claimed to be original. I was lucky enough to be able to find mentorship in some of the best engine company folks in the country early on in my career. I never set out to instruct anything, but eight years ago was asked to "show what I am doing." Now, all I am doing is sharing my toolset, like my mentors did for me. The Nozzle Forward is the sum total of my efforts in being systematic in practicing and teaching the required skills. It is my tweaks and alterations to long standing methods and techniques. I am always clear in citing my sources. Nevertheless, the program is a systematic approach of application as well as a system understanding and solving issues that are faced by engines.

                            So, Capt, it is possible that the whole program would be review. But, I will hold you an audit spot in any class in your area, so that you can come out and have some fun flowing water and moving lines with us. In the end f the two days you will be able to say with certainty, that the program is review. The calendar can be found at www.nozzleforward.com


                            Regards,

                            Aaron Fields
                            Generous offer and I appreciate it, but I'll pass. I too was mentored by some incredible enginemen in my day. I still occasionally am, although the riding of the backstep part of my career has passed.

                            You don't get very far east, do you?
                            Last edited by captnjak; 03-16-2015, 05:53 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I do get east, usually several times a year. I typically do a series of classes on the trips.

                              I keep a mostly up to date class list on the website, www.nozzleforward.com

                              Aaron

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