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  • #46
    Police in my area formed a FART group. Fatal Accident Response Team. They are specially trained in accident investigation/reconstruction/etc. They are requested to all fatal accidents and near fatal ones. They still use FART. We get a chuckle out of it the first couple times. Then we got past that phase.
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Bones42 View Post
      Police in my area formed a FART group. Fatal Accident Response Team. They are specially trained in accident investigation/reconstruction/etc. They are requested to all fatal accidents and near fatal ones. They still use FART. We get a chuckle out of it the first couple times. Then we got past that phase.

      You sure about that last part? Last time I heard a FART get requested, I think everyone still chuckled.

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      • #48
        Now it's an old fart.

        Should see the new gear we got....harness built into the pants instead of the Gemtor. No more big biner that we used to clip onto guys SCBA's to drag them out, no more using the big biner to hook onto ladders....gonna have to figure other ways to do this..or buy new biners to add on.
        "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Bones42 View Post
          Now it's an old fart.

          Should see the new gear we got....harness built into the pants instead of the Gemtor. No more big biner that we used to clip onto guys SCBA's to drag them out, no more using the big biner to hook onto ladders....gonna have to figure other ways to do this..or buy new biners to add on.
          I've heard mixed review on that kinda bunker pants. Down here we don't have any harness on our pants, so I've adjusted and gotten used to not having it.

          I'll be home this weekend, so I'll have to stop by and check it out. I hope I still have my old gear in my stall!

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          • #50
            Terds... Farts..... Only in FD can we take an important duty/task and turn it into bathroom humor. Love it!


            Now I kinda sped read through this as I multi-tasking so I apologize if this was already covered.. but Wasnt there a big push to actually move away from using RIT all together? I could have sworn I read an article in firehouse Mag. that said they were trying to move past the use of RIT/RIC "team" and rather train all firefighters on a given department the duties of RIT/RIC and how to get themselves out of a jam. Don't get me wrong I personally still want that RIT team availible, but lets face it, there are some areas that just dont have that kind of manpower, then half the time the people showing up dont actually have any formal RIT/RIC training/certification.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by WildFireShane View Post
              Terds... Farts..... Only in FD can we take an important duty/task and turn it into bathroom humor. Love it!


              Now I kinda sped read through this as I multi-tasking so I apologize if this was already covered.. but Wasnt there a big push to actually move away from using RIT all together? I could have sworn I read an article in firehouse Mag. that said they were trying to move past the use of RIT/RIC "team" and rather train all firefighters on a given department the duties of RIT/RIC and how to get themselves out of a jam. Don't get me wrong I personally still want that RIT team availible, but lets face it, there are some areas that just dont have that kind of manpower, then half the time the people showing up dont actually have any formal RIT/RIC training/certification.

              Thoughts?
              I haven't heard anything about getting away from RIT teams. I wouldn't imagine that being an accepted idea, as anything to do with safety is usually stressed and not eliminated. Although training in self rescue and firefighter survival is always beneficial, there's too many problems that can arise in a fire that you wouldn't be able to get out of yourself (SCBA problem, run out of air, collapse, disoriented, etc). A dedicated rescue team with all the equipment they could need comes in handy in situations like that.

              As far as training everyone on RIT team operations, that really depends on the area. In my career dept., 4th due engine is typically the RIT team, so on any given day that you're on an engine company, you could be RIT at a fire. Whereas the area where my volly house is, there are certain companies that are trained to a county standard for RIT, and can be used as a RIT team. And those departments are called by the neighboring towns when a RIT team is needed.

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              • #52
                I don't think that you will be able to standardize this... I understand that it is a possible issue with mutual aide and other things of that sort... I do think that a way to fix the issue on a local level is to do mutual aide training. Get to know eachothers operations, termonology, trucks, and personalities... I understand that easier said than done.
                I do agree that the terms should be limited to RIT or RIC. We use RIC where I am from. I do notice that alot of the "RIC Bags" say "RIT" on them...

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