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    I'm doing the plans review for a new 16 bed type Vb "Memory Care" facility. The topic came up as to whether or not a Type-1 Hood with suppression system will need to be installed over the cook stove. We are working out of the 2015 IFC here in Idaho. The definitions are pretty vague as to what qualifies as cooking for commercial purposes so it leave a lot open to interpretation. In my opinion they will be providing a food service for up to 16 residents in the facility which would constitute the requirement of a hood being installed. Has anyone dealt with this issue before? These 16 bed care facilities are popping up all over to skirt the "I" occupancy requirements. Thanks in advance

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    So brand new building, or remodeling an existing??

    House or regular building


    Appears Idaho is under all the I codes, to include IMC

    If staff is cooking three meals a day, I would say you have a commercial kitchen,,

    So a Type I vent a hood is required per IMC


    out of IFC look at 609 section

    Missing anything?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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    • #3
      Originally posted by fire49 View Post
      So brand new building, or remodeling an existing??

      House or regular building


      Appears Idaho is under all the I codes, to include IMC

      If staff is cooking three meals a day, I would say you have a commercial kitchen,,

      So a Type I vent a hood is required per IMC


      out of IFC look at 609 section

      Missing anything?

      This will be for a brand new building. Not sure on your definition of regular building or a house but it is Type V stick frame construction. Thanks for the reply as thats what I come up with as well

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      • #4
        Anything but a house regular commercial building


        Should have asked how many sq ft???

        Fire sprinkler system???

        Do you have a building official involved??
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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        • #5
          7,300sqft. single story. yes it will have a fire sprinkler system as required for its occupancy type. I do have a "building official" involved but they are very inactive at best. Everything else is totally up to code and the owners and contractor are being great to work with. It's just the fact that this section of the IFC is pretty vague about thresholds as to what is to be considered commercial cooking. They will be using domestic cooking appliances but I view that it is still their intent to use them in a commercial purpose which would still require the Type 1 hood. Logically, it doesnt pass the eye test. If you told me a facility would be cooking up to 50 meals a day I would tell you that it would be a commercial kitchen.

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          • #6
            IMC gives a little more direction

            Yep commercial business

            Love building officials in name only
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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            • #7
              https://up.codes/codes/idaho


              https://up.codes/viewer/idaho/imc-2012



              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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