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  • Digital cameras

    Good morning everyone,

    Our department is looking at purchasing a digital camera for investigation purposes. I have 2 questions

    1. Are you using digital?
    2. What camera are you using (make and model)

    Thanks for your time

    Mike

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    We here in the Montgomery County (Texas) Fire Marshal's Office have been using digital for a couple of years. We use the Sony Mavica camera that uses the small disk. ou can get up to 70 or 80 photos on one disk. The photo disk can be stored like negatives, in an evidence bag, for example, to maintain chain of custody of the photos. You just print out the photos that you need. No film cost; no development cost. The cameras cost about $800. sb

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    • #3
      I would look at getting a better quality camra than the Mavica. I know the ones I have seen/used don't take very good pics when it comes to blowing them up. I, personally, like my Kodak. Have never had any problems with it. Easy to use, great pictures......
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      • #4
        You may be thinking of the older 3.5 floppy Mavicas. We have one that is now collecting dust (it has been replaced with a more modern Fuji).

        The new Mavica that burns mini CD's, however is a different animal. I know it's available in 3.5 megapixel and I believe a 5 megapixel as well. Either would be adequate, but the higher resolution works better for enlarging.

        I have the 3.5 megapixel model for personal use. I like it because my wife is more or less computer-challenged. She has trouble learning new software, but she can load a CD just fine.
        ullrichk
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        • #5
          Originally posted by ullrichk
          You may be thinking of the older 3.5 floppy Mavicas. We have one that is now collecting dust (it has been replaced with a more modern Fuji).

          The new Mavica that burns mini CD's, however is a different animal. I know it's available in 3.5 megapixel and I believe a 5 megapixel as well. Either would be adequate, but the higher resolution works better for enlarging.

          I have the 3.5 megapixel model for personal use. I like it because my wife is more or less computer-challenged. She has trouble learning new software, but she can load a CD just fine.
          You are correct, my apologies. Yes, I thought he was referring to the Mavicas that use the 3.5" Floppies.......

          As a general rule, I think the say with 2.0 Mega pix you can blow the picture up to 8x10 without distortion. 3.0 Megapix = 11x14 max without distortion. I believe the 4.0 Megapix is 16x20........
          The comments made by me are my opinions only. They DO NOT reflect the opinions of my employer(s). If you have an issue with something I may say, take it up with me, either by posting in the forums, emailing me through my profile, or PMing me through my profile.
          We are all adults so there is no need to act like a child........
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          • #6
            My fire investigation unit uses the Sony Maciva 400 and 500. The pictures are excellent and the quality is excellent. We have been using them for two years and never had a complaint about the quality of the pictures. The DA's office loves them because they can put the pictures in a power point presentation for court. We are in the process of buying a new Sony Maciva 500 to replace one of the 400's.

            The best thing is I ahve taken pictures in a fire scene in complete darkness and only with the flash on the camera the picture looks like you have the room lite up. You have to watch having the room lite up because you can have too much light and ruin the picture.

            Good Luck

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            • #7
              Digital cameras

              Digital camera pictures will not hold up in a court room, for all others they are very good for preplanning or other fire photos.

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              • #8
                Re: Digital cameras

                Originally posted by CHIEFFLAMETAMER
                Digital camera pictures will not hold up in a court room, for all others they are very good for preplanning or other fire photos.
                Sorry, Chief, but I don't believe that's the case anymore. I believe not long after they came out it was an issue of photos being able to be doctored with digital photographs.......... With the technology today, ANY picture can be doctored...........
                The comments made by me are my opinions only. They DO NOT reflect the opinions of my employer(s). If you have an issue with something I may say, take it up with me, either by posting in the forums, emailing me through my profile, or PMing me through my profile.
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                • #9
                  Digital Camera Use

                  My department uses the Nikon Cool Pix 8700. It is a great camera and produces great photos. Their are some challenges on it's use but once you understand the camera it is very nice. Our police use the Sony Mavica and they love it. Each case gets it's on CD and your done. Our courts do accept digital as long as the picture is original and we can testify to it's authenticity. Some courts do not however and this may present a challenge. Check with you courts before you go spend $1000 on software, camera the works.

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                  • #10
                    posted by CHIEFFLAMETAMER: Digital camera pictures will not hold up in a court room, for all others they are very good for preplanning or other fire photos.
                    Wrong. Digital photos are used everyday all over the US. We use them routinely, and never been challenged. Digital is absolutely an acceptable photographic medium under the rules of evidence.

                    The only hurdle is that you have to testify that the photos are a fair and accurate representation of the scene at the time the photo was taken. You're going to have to do that with any picture you take. As far as the photos being challenged, there has never been a successful challenge to digital photos based solely on the medium in the US courts.

                    As to changing a photo, it's also acceptable to alter things like brightness or contrast as long as the unaltered original is available, and is otherwise unaltered.
                    Steve Gallagher
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                    • #11
                      Take a look at the newer Nikon D70. Awesome camera...high resolution, and very fast. I have one of these cameras. Allows you to change lenses for when you need those "close ups" as well wide angle. You can get this camera for about $1000.(body only) It also has an "idoit" mode for those that need it.
                      "Not knowing when the dawn will come I open every door"

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                      • #12
                        Re: Digital cameras

                        Originally posted by CHIEFFLAMETAMER
                        Digital camera pictures will not hold up in a court room, for all others they are very good for preplanning or other fire photos.
                        It never fails. Every time an intelligent discussion about digital photography comes up, there is at least one, grossly uninformed know-it-all who chimes in with this urban myth.

                        Once again...In the US, as of today, there is not one single case where digital photography has been excluded from the case. Not a single one. Every day, more and more law enforcement agencies switch over to 100% digital. It is the future of this industry and this future has no limits.

                        By the way, here is a quote from an actual US Supreme Court Case. Can anyone tell me the citation?

                        “It is common knowledge that as to such matters, either through the skill on the part of the artist, or inadequate instruments or materials, or through intentional and skillful manipulation, a photograph may not only be inaccurate, but dangerously misleading”
                        PROUD, HONORED AND HUMBLED RECIPIENT OF THE PURPLE HYDRANT AWARD - 10/2007.

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                        • #13
                          Behold the power of Google

                          Connecticut Supreme Court

                          Cunningham vs. Fair Haven & Westville R. Co. (1899) 72 Conn. 244, 43 A. 1047

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                            Re: Behold the power of Google

                            Originally posted by EFD840
                            Connecticut Supreme Court

                            Cunningham vs. Fair Haven & Westville R. Co. (1899) 72 Conn. 244, 43 A. 1047
                            Bingo! The key point here is the year in which the decision was handed down:
                            1899!

                            This is not a new issue for the legal system and the integration of digital imaging will be just another step in the continuing development of forensic imaging and documentation.
                            PROUD, HONORED AND HUMBLED RECIPIENT OF THE PURPLE HYDRANT AWARD - 10/2007.

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