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  • johnsb
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    Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Odd,we haven't experienced this with ours. Some of it comes off regularly and some of it only comes off during the annual test. To date,we haven't had any sticking issues. If I have to put out much 5" I PREFER to do it with the Reel truck. Packing it back is SO much easier.
    Our new hose was delivered around Dec. '11. It went on the trucks in Feb.

    I've only seen one dept. with a reel in this area. But that's pretty much all it can do is lay hose, it just has a 500 gpm front mount pump, which is pretty much obsolete around here. Even 1000 Gpm pumps are getting rare. Manpower is usually adequate to reload the 5", not that it sucks any less.

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  • Rescue101
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    Odd,we haven't experienced this with ours. Some of it comes off regularly and some of it only comes off during the annual test. To date,we haven't had any sticking issues. If I have to put out much 5" I PREFER to do it with the Reel truck. Packing it back is SO much easier.

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  • johnsb
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    Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
    We've been using it on three of our rigs for over three years now with NO issues. What is this "sticking" problem you refer to?
    Evidently whoever makes the coating for the fabric 5" we just got has a problem with it sticking to itself. Most of our engines have it and have had problems laying hose. Some have had the last 300' come out of the bed in one big chunk. Not very condusive for laying a supply line. On our truck we had to pull the last 400' out flake by flake to get it out.

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  • Rescue101
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    We've been using it on three of our rigs for over three years now with NO issues. What is this "sticking" problem you refer to?

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  • johnsb
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    Until Mercedes figures out the problem with the Megaflow sticking to itself in the hosebed, avoid it!!

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  • ejfeicht
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    The only information I can find on Mercedes Textiles Warranty is what they state as their Limited “Two Year All Hazards Warranty” . Do they provide any other type of warranty on their hose ?

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  • johnsb
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    We used Angus and similar hose for years with little or no problems. Worst thing would be pinholes, but no major hose breaks that I can recall. We just got all new megaflow hose, haven't had it long enough to get it dirty. Can't find any friction loss charts for it though, you'd think it would've come with the hose. Made in Canada, not USA.

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  • bigjim54
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    We just changed to Mercedes (Highwater) 4" hose. Seems to work just fine.

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  • chiefengineer11
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    When we went to extruded 5" hose, we went with Angus Hi-Combat Lite. It's slightly heavier than their standard supply hose but tests at 225 psi rather than 200. Working pressure is 200 rather than 185. We also specify Red Head couplings. The combination has worked well for us.

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  • Bones42
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    We got some All-American. Won't get it again. Couplings feel like they are made from aluminum foil.

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  • ejfeicht
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    We currently utilize single jacket LDH however due to age and installation of new hydrants with increased pressures we are in the process of replacing it. The replacement hose will be Double Jacketed LDH and we are looking at these brands all of which offer a 10 year warranty.

    All-American Hose (National Hose Triple Duty)
    Municipal Fire Hose / Armored Textiles Inc.,Formerly Jaffrey (JAFLINE)
    Key Fire Hose (Big 10)

    Looking for recommendations, comments or concerns on any of these.

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  • txgp17
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    My Dept uses Niedner brand hose, 4".

    It's double jacketed hose that is service tested to 300 psi. Meets NFPA standards for supply, relay and attack hose.

    It's really tough stuff, I much prefer it over rubber jacketed/covered LDH hose that's tested to 200 psi.

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  • FD1976
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    Check out North American Fire Hose. Nice stuff and made in America. (California I believe)

    Also, although a hose ( any manufacturer) may be rated for 300 psi, the Storz couplings are only good for 225 psi max. If you want 300#, must got to threaded couplings.

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  • Nozzle nut 22
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    We've used Angus and Snap Tite. Always worked well for us. Using the vacuum method and or a hose roller eliminates the problems associated with air. Packs nice and flat!

    I like the idea of different colored hose, not just for M/A calls, but for split beds. Even the greenest of explorers is hard pressed to screw up all the red goes in one bed and all the yellow in the other!

    Yep, a dept name, and piece number make lives easier. A unit number is nice, too.

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  • MG3610
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    National (All American) Triple Duty is a great hose. Its service pressure is rated at 300 PSI, so using it to supply master streams, FDC and aerials is not an issue. It packs very nicely. We are phasing out all of our Snap Tite and Angus single jacket nitrile supply lines and switching over. We have used this Triple Duty hose in our 4" beds since 1989, some of it is still in service (replacing bit by bit). The rubber hose develops pin hole leaks all the time. Last year 6 100' lengths failed for pinhole leaks throughout.

    You do not have to hang dry this hose, or any other modern double jacket hose because its not cotton and will not rot. Hose it off, pack it up. Old myth. Ask anyone out there with double jacket hose in hosebeds that arent covered if they unload the bed each time it rains and hang all the hose up to dry, I bet they dont. Specifically, triple duty is coated with an abrasion resistance coating thak makes it even more water resistant. You can get it in 5 different colors, rubber comes in 2.

    Someone mentioned weight, the difference in their nitrile vs double jacket is within 1 to 2 lb.

    One other MAJOR advantage is how easily you can drag the triple duty DJ. If you do hand stretches, youll be amazed how easy you can drag this stuff compared to nitrile.
    Last edited by MG3610; 04-09-2011, 10:48 PM.

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