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  • #16
    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    FWD you wouldn't be referring to the fact that Mack NEVER built their own ladders would you? I have seen Macks with ALF ladders, Maxim ladders, and (SHUDDER!!) even Pirsch ladders on them. But I have never seen a Mack straight stick aerial.

    I suppose some may try to say the Aerialscope was a Mack tower ladder but that was really a Baker tower mounted exclusively, at one point anyways, on Mack chassis.
    Don't forget that Mack used LTI for there Bulldog Ladders!!!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by nameless View Post
      whats wrong with Peter Pirsch? Those aerials ran a good deal of fire in cities across the country.
      Dude...You like them you can climb them.

      I never saw one, including brand new, that didn't have a twist in it. Add to that the fact that they bounced between 2 and 3 feet unsupported...NO THANKS!
      Crazy, but that's how it goes
      Millions of people living as foes
      Maybe it's not too late
      To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Chief1FF View Post
        Don't forget that Mack used LTI for there Bulldog Ladders!!!
        You sir are correct, and I hang my head in total shame for not remembering that! I may very well lose my secret decoder ring in the Mack Club over this gaff.
        Crazy, but that's how it goes
        Millions of people living as foes
        Maybe it's not too late
        To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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        • #19
          Call me an idiot, but it was somebody's ladder on a Mack CF chassis.

          At that point in my career I will be honest, it really didn't matter who made the ladder as long as it would get me where I needed to go without a bad thing happening.

          (Note: It was a mutual aid truck company that we ran quite freuently with, not my department's ladder)
          Train to fight the fires you fight.

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          • #20
            Ok. You are an idiot.
            "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post
              Ok. You are an idiot.
              I figured you would take the open shot.

              You are nothing if not predictable.
              Train to fight the fires you fight.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
                I figured you would take the open shot.

                You are nothing if not predictable.
                Did you predict I would respond by saying that I would rather be predictable than a coward?
                "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post
                  Did you predict I would respond by saying that I would rather be predictable than a coward?
                  Coward? You are reduced to name calling?

                  What a man.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by firepundit View Post
                    Coward? You are reduced to name calling?

                    What a man.
                    Obviously you don't know who he is or what he stands for. Coward is being nice.
                    "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
                      Pirsch? Seriously the scariest ladders I have ever climbed. I was on a volly FD that got a BRAND NEW Pirsch 100 foot aerial and the first time I saw it raised it extended out to 100 feet and twisted between an 8th and a 16th of a turn to the left. When you climbed it it bounced 2 or 3 feet at the tip if unsupported. I would say it was a fluke except we had a 110 foot Pirsch on my career job that was just as scary.

                      I would much rather climb our 105 foot HME/3-D/AI than any Pirsch ladder I ever saw. I have climbed ALF Ladders, Seagrave Ladders, and a Pierce Ladder and never felt that anxiousness about the ladder that I did with the Pirsch's.
                      Flexible Flyer,hehe T.C.

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                      • #26
                        Funny the most secure aerial I've been up in/on was an Aerialscope. Like being in a tank 95' up. After an afternoon of flying and taking pics of a possible used scope we were going to buy, we travelled home and upon downloading our pics there were a few showing us flying the bucket off one side and enough room to drive a VW beetle under the outboard jack

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                        • #27
                          Didn't come down though, did it? T.C.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
                            Didn't come down though, did it? T.C.
                            As I said, we didn't know a thing until we downloaded the pics!

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                            • #29
                              Sometimes it's BETTER NOT knowing,Hehe T.C.

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