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  • Best Ladder Truck LaFrance v. Seagrave

    The "Mack Porn Thread" has got me thinking.

    There was a link to a site where the poster stated that the Seagrave rear-mount Admiral was probably the best ladder truck ever built.

    While it is a fine truck, to me the best laddder truck ever built was the American LaFrance rear-mount Ladder Chief.

    What are your thoughts?
    Train to fight the fires you fight.

  • #2
    Is this a joke??? Really?? I got to know!!
    A Fire Chief has ONLY 1 JOB and that's to take care of his fireman. EVERYTHING else falls under this.

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    • #3
      Ha!

      ............
      "In general terms, firefighting isn't always about putting the fire out; its about making sure anything else doesn't catch on fire. What's burned is burned. Once you understand this, your tunnel vision is replaced by effective strategy."

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      • #4
        **never mind. I'm not going to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.**
        Last edited by FWDbuff; 11-04-2010, 07:07 AM.
        "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by fwdbuff View Post
          **never mind. I'm not going to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.**
          funny !!!!!

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          • #6
            Like old crowbar, LaFireEducator has nothing to do but sprew his non firefighting knowledge in here.

            The old Seagrave, Maxim, Pirsch and American La France mid mounts, out perform all others built!

            Now days the Pierce and E-One aerial's are at the top of all others.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jonnee View Post
              Like old crowbar, LaFireEducator has nothing to do but sprew his non firefighting knowledge in here.

              The old Seagrave, Maxim, Pirsch and American La France mid mounts, out perform all others built!

              Now days the Pierce and E-One aerial's are at the top of all others.

              Pirsch? Seriously the scariest ladders I have ever climbed. I was on a volly FD that got a BRAND NEW Pirsch 100 foot aerial and the first time I saw it raised it extended out to 100 feet and twisted between an 8th and a 16th of a turn to the left. When you climbed it it bounced 2 or 3 feet at the tip if unsupported. I would say it was a fluke except we had a 110 foot Pirsch on my career job that was just as scary.

              I would much rather climb our 105 foot HME/3-D/AI than any Pirsch ladder I ever saw. I have climbed ALF Ladders, Seagrave Ladders, and a Pierce Ladder and never felt that anxiousness about the ladder that I did with the Pirsch's.
              Last edited by FyredUp; 11-04-2010, 10:48 PM.
              Crazy, but that's how it goes
              Millions of people living as foes
              Maybe it's not too late
              To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
                Pirsch? Seriously the scariest ladders I have ever climbed. I was on a volly FD that got a BRAND NEW Pirsch 100 foot aerial and the first time I saw it raised it extended out to 100 feet and twisted between an 8th and a 16th of a turn to the left. When you climbed it it bounced 2 or 3 feet at the tip if unsupported. I would say it was a fluke except we had a 110 foot Pirsch on my career job that was just as scary.

                I would much rather climb our 105 foot HME/3-D/AI than any Pirsch ladder I ever saw. I have climbed ALF Ladders, Seagrave Ladders, and a Pierce Ladder and never felt that anxiousness about the ladder that I did with the Pirsch's.
                Years ago I was at a Fire Muster in Philadelphia, down on the Delaware River. There was an ALF ladder that had about a 3' bow to the right and about the same twist as you describe in the Pirsch ladder. And some idiot was still climbing it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by donethat View Post
                  Years ago I was at a Fire Muster in Philadelphia, down on the Delaware River. There was an ALF ladder that had about a 3' bow to the right and about the same twist as you describe in the Pirsch ladder. And some idiot was still climbing it.
                  There is a sign in my locker at the firehouse that says: "We can fix ignorance, but there isn't a damn thing we can do about stupid." Seems to fit your scenario.

                  I would be uncomfortable even lifting that ladder out of the bed, let alone climbing it.
                  Crazy, but that's how it goes
                  Millions of people living as foes
                  Maybe it's not too late
                  To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                  • #10
                    I would say that the Kme Aerialcat is one of the strongest built ladders today, also LTI, Seagrave, and Pierce are the other top three built with a solid 750lb tip load.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JTFIRE80 View Post
                      Is this a joke??? Really?? I got to know!!
                      Actually, no.

                      The only 3 aerials I have ever worked closely with and climbed were LaFrances, Maxims and Macks (very limited).

                      I also have experience with Baker Aerialscopes and Stuphen Platforms.

                      I have no experience with Seagraves engines or ladders as they were not used in the areas I have served.

                      For my money, based on my experiences, I have found the LaFrance aerials as the most stable and operator friendly.
                      Train to fight the fires you fight.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
                        Actually, no.

                        The only 3 aerials I have ever worked closely with and climbed were LaFrances, Maxims and Macks (very limited).
                        Like I said, battle of wits with an unarmed person.
                        "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post
                          Like I said, battle of wits with an unarmed person.
                          FWD you wouldn't be referring to the fact that Mack NEVER built their own ladders would you? I have seen Macks with ALF ladders, Maxim ladders, and (SHUDDER!!) even Pirsch ladders on them. But I have never seen a Mack straight stick aerial.

                          I suppose some may try to say the Aerialscope was a Mack tower ladder but that was really a Baker tower mounted exclusively, at one point anyways, on Mack chassis.
                          Crazy, but that's how it goes
                          Millions of people living as foes
                          Maybe it's not too late
                          To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
                            FWD you wouldn't be referring to the fact that Mack NEVER built their own ladders would you? I
                            Battle of wits with an unarmed person......(Not you, Fyred....)
                            Last edited by FWDbuff; 11-07-2010, 05:32 PM.
                            "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
                              FWD you wouldn't be referring to the fact that Mack NEVER built their own ladders would you? I have seen Macks with ALF ladders, Maxim ladders, and (SHUDDER!!) even Pirsch ladders on them. But I have never seen a Mack straight stick aerial.

                              whats wrong with Peter Pirsch? Those aerials ran a good deal of fire in cities across the country.

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