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    You guys are ****ed i ask for a little help and you guys just shoot me down.... I must be dealing with Volunteers.. this web site should be call
    firefighterwannabes.com..... get a real job no one volunteers anymore fkn posers
    Last edited by dill the thrill; 01-02-2011, 02:12 PM. Reason: nothing but bashing goin here im goin to find a better website where i can get better help from

  • #2
    Originally posted by dill the thrill View Post
    Just wondering what the regs are for their emergency response vehicles.

    The reason for this is because they have no visible markings on their trucks stating it’s an emergency vehicle. They both have no light bars on the roof just hidden emergency LED strobe flashers behind the front grill, on the inside of the back windows. They have little LED flashing lights that are on the sun visor that they fold down when on route and little lights that blink on the mirrors and that it. They have no lighting and no stripe flashing down the side, no stickers stating it’s a fire truck or related to the fire dept.

    They look like someone’s personal truck when the lights are not flashing. Their reason for this is they are worried about people vandalizing the trucks?? I think they just want to use the city trucks for personal chores free gas etc..

    Just wondering if there is anywhere I can find something or somewhere that they need this or they do? They are city vehicles

    Fire Chiefs is driving a 2009 Dodge Nitro
    Deputy is driving a 2009 Chevy 1500 pickup
    Horrible choices for vehicles, first of all...

    I imagine the laws vary state by state. Not to mention that without knowing more, its hard to even consider your question.

    IMO, vehicles should be marked.
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

    "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

    "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
      Horrible choices for vehicles, first of all...

      I imagine the laws vary state by state. Not to mention that without knowing more, its hard to even consider your question.

      IMO, vehicles should be marked.
      Chief, I think this is just a civillian whining about paying for a city vehicle.
      FF/Paramedic

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      • #4
        Just another ticked off member of a department who doesn't have the vehicle for his use.

        His first post in here and he crying a bucket of crocodile tears.

        Most urban fire departments don't mark the vehicles for the Chief of Department or their Deputies. Usually the car(s) are rotated every year and no sense in dressing them out.
        Stay Safe and Well Out There....

        Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TNFF319 View Post
          Chief, I think this is just a civillian whining about paying for a city vehicle.
          No doubt. Its still a good topic for discussion.

          I have seen some volunteer departments operating "stealth" chief vehicles. I don't get it.
          I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

          "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

          "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
            No doubt. Its still a good topic for discussion.

            I have seen some volunteer departments operating "stealth" chief vehicles. I don't get it.
            I can understand large cities not marking the higher ups. I do not understand not marking common response vehicles. There are already enough vehicles on the road with flashing lights. We need to stand out.
            FF/Paramedic

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            • #7
              Given the amount of theft to fire departments, I can see the desire to use unmarked vehicles. But...

              Originally posted by dill the thrill View Post
              I think they just want to use the city trucks for personal chores free gas etc..
              City vehicle... free gas??? Most cities that I know of have fleet accounts with which ever fuel source they have an agreement with. So I'm not sure what you're getting at there. I could see you having an issue with them putting gas in their personal vehicle and charging it to the city, but a city vehicle??? As for personal chores... some are allowed, some are not. There are always going to be people breaking the rules, no matter what profession you're in.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
                I have seen some volunteer departments operating "stealth" chief vehicles. I don't get it.
                Well, this volunteer fire chief operates a "stealth" vehicle because it's my own vehicle.

                I have seen some volunteer departments where the chief gets a vehicle. I don't get it
                Chief Dwayne LeBlanc
                Paincourtville Volunteer Fire Department
                Paincourtville, LA

                "I have a dream. It's not a big dream, it's just a little dream. My dream — and I hope you don't find this too crazy — is that I would like the people of this community to feel that if, God forbid, there were a fire, calling the fire department would actually be a wise thing to do. You can't have people, if their houses are burning down, saying, 'Whatever you do, don't call the fire department!' That would be bad."
                — C.D. Bales, "Roxanne"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dmleblanc View Post
                  I have seen some volunteer departments where the chief gets a vehicle. I don't get it
                  Our VFD chief is issued a F350 four door pickup as his department vehicle. Our first due area is 72 square miles, so its convenient for him to first respond to calls in it. Furthermore, with the number of extra meetings and events he must attend, its a bit of a perk for him to get to use the department vehicle for such.

                  Our members who are attending training classes out of town have the option to take the chiefs vehicle in lieu of their POV, so it does benefit the regular membership as well.

                  I'm not sure what it is that you don't get?
                  Career Fire Captain
                  Volunteer Chief Officer


                  Never taking for granted that I'm privileged enough to have the greatest job in the world!

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                  • #10
                    Our career dept. Chief's vehicle is unmarked with hidden LED's (B/C's are marked and have external lights). I have a huge problem with that, as noted on another thread. If you're a career dept., mark your response vehicles as such, with external lighting. Otherwise you look like a wannabe undercover cop.

                    I'm covered by a VFD, and the Chief's vehicle is clearly marked as Fire Chief, paid by the City. He does take it home, and makes runs from his house to all fires and major incidents. He considers himself OTJ 24/7, so I have no problem with seeing it at the store, or in his driveway.

                    FM1
                    I'm the one Fire and Rescue calls, when they need to be Rescued.

                    Originally posted by EastKyFF
                    "Firemens gets antsies. Theys wants to goes to fires. Sometimeses they haves to waits."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dmleblanc View Post
                      Well, this volunteer fire chief operates a "stealth" vehicle because it's my own vehicle.

                      I have seen some volunteer departments where the chief gets a vehicle. I don't get it
                      Sounds like a topic for another thread.
                      I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

                      "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

                      "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
                        Our career dept. Chief's vehicle is unmarked with hidden LED's (B/C's are marked and have external lights). I have a huge problem with that, as noted on another thread. If you're a career dept., mark your response vehicles as such, with external lighting. Otherwise you look like a wannabe undercover cop.
                        Honestly, does it really matter? Oftentimes Chiefs get 24/7/365 use of a department car as a "perk" because they're expected to respond to all major emergencies whenever they occur. As long as they're provided with appropriate emergency lights and audibles to respond in emergency mode if necessary, what difference does it make if they're immediately recognizable as the fire chief?
                        Last edited by DeputyMarshal; 01-02-2011, 01:08 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
                          Honestly, does it really matter? Oftentimes Chiefs get 24/7/365 use of a department car as a "perk" because they're expected to respond to all major emergencies whenever they occur. As long as they're provided with appropriate emergency lights and audibles to respond in emergency mode if necessary, what difference does it make if they're immediately recognizable as the fire chief.
                          Yea, cuz the vinyl letters are so expensive!
                          I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

                          "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

                          "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
                            Yea, cuz the vinyl letters are so expensive!
                            No, but they're unnecessary.
                            "Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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                            The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
                              No, but they're unnecessary.
                              You could make that argument on all vehicles then.
                              I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

                              "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

                              "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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