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    New to this game. Our department is looking into a new quint however our board would like to see some pictures of different ones. We are looking at a 75 foot. If you have a picture of yours please post and your recommendations as far as what to purchase. Thanks for your help!!!

  • #2
    You should present the quint that works best for your area. Before even discussing manufacturers and options, you need to make some other decisions. Stick vs. platform? 75' vs. 105'? Tandem rear axle vs. single rear axle? Once you make those decisions and figure out what options you want, contact the manufacturers and start looking at specs. Be sure to compare apples to apples between manufacturers. For instance, don't try to compare Truck A with a medium block diesel against Truck B with a big block diesel.
    If you want to send me PM with any other questions, feel free to do so. Our Department bought a new quint two years ago and evaluated all the major manufacturers.

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    • #3
      Every manufacturer has a plethora of pictures () on their websites. figure out what type of a stick / platform you want, and print away!

      -H
      "The uniform you wear was given to you. The respect that comes with it must be earned."

      Heretic
      Lieutenant
      Vermont

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      • #4
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        Last edited by sfd2605; 03-17-2008, 07:59 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ChiefSquirrel View Post
          You should present the quint that works best for your area. Before even discussing manufacturers and options, you need to make some other decisions. Stick vs. platform? 75' vs. 105'? Tandem rear axle vs. single rear axle? Once you make those decisions and figure out what options you want, contact the manufacturers and start looking at specs. Be sure to compare apples to apples between manufacturers. For instance, don't try to compare Truck A with a medium block diesel against Truck B with a big block diesel.
          If you want to send me PM with any other questions, feel free to do so. Our Department bought a new quint two years ago and evaluated all the major manufacturers.
          ChiefSquirrel is right on in his posting! Most of what has been posted so far are good things to take into account. However before you start looking at manufacturers I would suggest you sit down and take the time to come up with ideas of what you would like the Truck to do! Then come up with a performance specification before you look at manufacturers. If you don't have any one in your department with the knowledge to do that I suggest you find some one from outside to help you with it. Sales people from different manufacturers can be knowledgeable however you have to remember that they are selling a certain product which may or may not be exactly what you are looking for. Come up with a performance spec first then when you have picked your manufacturer you can tweak the spec if needed.

          If you want to send me an e-mail with any other questions you may have feel free to do so. My department has been running a Quint since 1991.

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          • #6
            My Dept recently placed this Pierce Dash 75' HAL into service. This is essentially our first aerial. We had a used Mack/Scope they bought for evaluation purposes, and didnt want to spend the $$ when they found a crack in the 2nd fly of the boom.

            It has the following:
            (1) 24' extension Ladder
            (1) 35' extension Ladder
            (2) 16' Roof Ladders
            (2) 10' Attic(scissor) Ladders
            (1) Little Giant Ladder
            (5) 6' Halligan Hooks
            (2) 8' Halligan Hooks
            (2) 10' Halligan Hooks
            (1) 6' Pike Pole

            Tank and Pump Size (2000 GPM Single Stage, 500 Gallons)
            2 trashlines of 100' each (there are 2 troughs)
            (2) 210' of 1 3/4" preconnect crosslay
            600' of 2 1/2" deadbed crosslay
            300' of 2 1/2" reduced to 300' of 1 3/4" deadbed crosslay

            The only thing that isnt on this truck is the hurst tool, it is on our rescue pumper, which also has a full compliment of truck tools and air bags as well





            Last edited by Taz288; 02-13-2007, 05:41 PM.

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            • #7
              You've gotten some very good advice so far. My departments first aerial device just went into service last year. Never having owned an aerial we did allot of homework. One thing that was especially helpful was getting demo units to come in, straight ladders, platforms, diffrent lenghts, etc. We just didn't just set these up at the station, we took them out in the community and set them up at our larger structures. We used this data to help come up with our specifications. In the end we purchased a 75' aluminum ladder quint, with a 520 hp detroit, 1500 gpm pump, 460 gallon water, 40 gallons foam and CAFS. In the end the unit is well suited for current and future needs of our community, but it took over two years of homework to make sure.

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              • #8
                What is the tip load of the rig pictured? 500lbs dry?

                Thanks.
                Stay low and move it in.

                Be safe.


                Larry

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                • #9
                  Pierces 75' HAL ladder has a 750 pound dry tip load, 500 pound wet.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Taz288 View Post
                    My Dept recently placed this Pierce Dash 75' HAL into service. This is essentially our first aerial. We had a used Mack/Scope they bought for evaluation purposes, and didnt want to spend the $$ when they found a crack in the 2nd fly of the boom.

                    It has the following:
                    (1) 24' extension Ladder
                    (1) 35' extension Ladder
                    (2) 16' Roof Ladders
                    (2) 10' Attic(scissor) Ladders
                    (1) Little Giant Ladder
                    (5) 6' Halligan Hooks
                    (2) 8' Halligan Hooks
                    (2) 10' Halligan Hooks
                    (1) 6' Pike Pole

                    Tank and Pump Size (2000 GPM Single Stage, 500 Gallons)
                    2 trashlines of 100' each (there are 2 troughs)
                    (2) 210' of 1 3/4" preconnect crosslay
                    600' of 2 1/2" deadbed crosslay
                    300' of 2 1/2" reduced to 300' of 1 3/4" deadbed crosslay

                    The only thing that isnt on this truck is the hurst tool, it is on our rescue pumper, which also has a full compliment of truck tools and air bags as well





                    That is one very nice looking quint 75' HAL, I had seen a demo unit last year built with a Pierce Arrow XT chassis at Fire & saftey Services that sold for $ 569,000 with about 6000 miles on her !...

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                    • #11
                      Ferrera has a demo 77' Quint for $519,900.00

                      Ferrara Inferno Chassis w/8" Notched Raised Roof
                      • Detroit 500 HP Engine
                      • Allison EVS4000 Transmission
                      • Hale QMAX 2000 GPM Pump
                      • 500 Gallon Poly Tank
                      • Heavy Duty Extruded Aluminum Body
                      • EZ Stack Hose Load
                      • Whelen LED Lighting Package
                      • Ferrara Red

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                      • #12
                        One option I like on our quints that you might consider is pump panel controls for the aerial. If you're limited on manpower for whatever reason and need the stick in the air, the engineer can control the stick from the pump panel, instead of having to find someone to climb to the platform. Our panels are pretty limited and used primarily when we're defensive.

                        Ours are Rosenbauers on HME chassis. I don't care for the chassis as we've had all three (2 '00 and 1 '05) break suspension springs, among other issues.

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                        • #13
                          Quints

                          Our department purchased a 75' telesqurt on an American LaFrance chassis back in 2003. We are a part-paid department with limited daytime personnel. The quick setup of this truck was a key in the purchase.

                          The weight ratings are equivalent to that of 75' ladders with 500lbs dry under 45 degrees and 750lbs over 45 degrees.

                          The truck was designed as a pumper with the aerial being the secondary device. Some of the particulars are listed below.

                          500 gallon tank
                          1500 pump
                          1000' 5" hose
                          600' 3" hose
                          400' 2 1/2"
                          400' 1 3/4"
                          10 airpacks
                          10 spare cylinders
                          12000 lb front winch
                          auto tire chains
                          28' extension ladder
                          14' roof ladder
                          10' attic ladder

                          Detroit Diesel 435 hp electronic engine
                          Allison EVS4000 5 speed transmission

                          Bottom line on quints depends on the needs of your department.

                          http://www.americanlafrance.com/inte...=21&nd=1&x=380
                          Jim Shultz
                          Oshtemo Fire Dept
                          Fleet Maintenance Specialist

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by osh599 View Post
                            Our department purchased a 75' telesqurt on an American LaFrance chassis back in 2003. We are a part-paid department with limited daytime personnel. The quick setup of this truck was a key in the purchase.

                            The weight ratings are equivalent to that of 75' ladders with 500lbs dry under 45 degrees and 750lbs over 45 degrees.

                            The truck was designed as a pumper with the aerial being the secondary device. Some of the particulars are listed below.

                            500 gallon tank
                            1500 pump
                            1000' 5" hose
                            600' 3" hose
                            400' 2 1/2"
                            400' 1 3/4"
                            10 airpacks
                            10 spare cylinders
                            12000 lb front winch
                            auto tire chains
                            28' extension ladder
                            14' roof ladder
                            10' attic ladder

                            Detroit Diesel 435 hp electronic engine
                            Allison EVS4000 5 speed transmission

                            Bottom line on quints depends on the needs of your department.

                            http://www.americanlafrance.com/inte...=21&nd=1&x=380
                            Has your department ever used the ladder on the squirt for " RESCUE " or only master stream ?

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                            • #15
                              Taz288 do you have the spec's for that truck! Please send me a email [email protected] Thanks!!!

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