Does anyone know the status of the new bid for 67 pumpers (correct me if my number is mistaken) that are supposed to go out to bid for the FDNY?
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I know it'll never happen, but......Wouldn't it be interesting if they gave bids to 6 different manufacturers for 10 rigs each. Then 5 years from now all this $%^& about this rig is better than that rig would finally be over. But, that would be cost prohibitive in the long run with replacement parts. Not something that anyone with a modicum of sense would expect from a government entity.FTM-PTB-EGH-RTB
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Well I know that pierce went in for the pre-bid meeting and the pumpers where on Arrow XT chassis.... I know that they have supposedly been having problems with the Seagraves but both companies make good trucks..so it should be interesting to see what happens
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diversity in pumper manufacturers dejavu?
Originally posted by resqb View PostI know it'll never happen, but......Wouldn't it be interesting if they gave bids to 6 different manufacturers for 10 rigs each. Then 5 years from now all this $%^& about this rig is better than that rig would finally be over. But, that would be cost prohibitive in the long run with replacement parts. Not something that anyone with a modicum of sense would expect from a government entity.
In fact that very thing DID begin to happen 10 or so years ago after Seagrave cornered the FDNY pumper market. Jack Lerch had mentioned that FDNY was granted permission to buy 10 pumpers without bids from various purveyors of pumper trucks. When the deal went forth 2 were to be ordered from 5 different suppliers without competitive bidding so as to ''pilot'' program test these various units or rigs out in the field. The prices submitted by the
5 dealerships were ALL higher than Seagrave's normal cost and the deal fell through and Seagrave picked up 10 more pumpers.
When I was visiting the shops around that time an official there said they heard so many good things about Pierce that they were interested in trying them under this ''pilot'' program. Well, it's anybody's guess what may have happened after that. Later Pierce was supposedly banned from FDNY bidding because of a financial situation which was resolved with Oshkosh buying the
Pierce works. So at present Pierce is very welcome to bid.
Personally I would like to see 2 Pierce Arrow XT mid-mount towers 95' and maybe if Pierce would consider offering a smaller 75' mid-mount tower then possibly a better quality aerial tower could be tested for FDNY in the field. The scopes are quite good for FDNY admitedly. I like the high side railings on the Pierce mid-mounts myself, as well as a very heavy-duty aerial platform. Just a lowly opinion though.
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Well i know recently the FDNY, purchased the new R1 from pierce on an Arrow XT chassis ..... But that was under the HomeLand security grant....
http://www.piercehomelandsecurity.com/vehicles/FDNY.cfm
http://rescue1fdny.com/rig.htmlLast edited by dano8696; 01-08-2007, 05:46 PM.
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Big Bucks ?
Originally posted by Firetruckz View PostPierce didn't submit a bid Ferrara and Seagrave are the only two who bid Seagrave came in in the Mid 500,000 and Ferrara came in the 600,000 range.Last edited by NewJerseyFFII; 01-08-2007, 07:38 PM.
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Originally posted by NewJerseyFFII View PostThe price of $ 500,000 from Seagrave & $ 600,000 from Ferrara seems very high for a pumper apparatus. Ferrara Fire Apparatus is selling a F.D.N.Y. " DEMO " for around $ 359,000 !...
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Originally posted by Firetruckz View PostYes it does but with the extended warranty and other options also if they get the contract these will be Stainless split tilt Marauders.Last edited by NewJerseyFFII; 01-08-2007, 07:54 PM.
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Originally posted by wfd4fireman View Post---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Personally I would like to see 2 Pierce Arrow XT mid-mount towers 95' and maybe if Pierce would consider offering a smaller 75' mid-mount tower then possibly a better quality aerial tower could be tested for FDNY in the field. The scopes are quite good for FDNY admitedly. I like the high side railings on the Pierce mid-mounts myself, as well as a very heavy-duty aerial platform. Just a lowly opinion though.
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