My department is looking to go towards a mini pumper, I was wondering what people typically use there mini pumpers for. Any help would be great.
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My dept purchased a mini pumper in 03 from e-one. It has a 750 gpm pump and a 240 gal tank. Our city is seperated by Norfolk Southern rail line with a side track. We have 2 crossings in our city and one street goes under the railroad however this trestle only has a 8 ft clearance. This railroad line is one of the busiest in the country (45 -55 trains a day.) This was the reason we purchased a mini-pumper.
We also use this for all our medical calls and MVA calls. Our truck named Squad 25 (The little engine that could) carries 500ft of 3" supply, 200ft of 2 1/2, 2 cross lays of 200ft each and a trash line of 100ft. It has a 5000w generator and 2 500w tripod lights. We carry a holmatro combi-tool and ram and a battery operated dewalt sawzall. We carry 2 SCBA and 2 spare bottles. We also carry a stokes basket, 2 backboards and rope rescue equipment.
Needless to say the truck is very full. The service man that mounted the equipment kept telling me this is a mini-pumper not a regular engine.
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Bryan,
I hope if you're looking at at mini-pumper, your dept already has a pretty clear idea on how your going to use it. A couple years ago our dept was replacing an aging van that we used primarily for EMS, manpower, etc. We were looking to replace it with something along the lines of a F-450/550 with a small rescue body. However, in committee the thing grew to a mini-pumper and then talk of rescue tools, etc. Finally, common sense won out and we went back to the crew-cab 550 with small rescue body and to run it the same as we had the van - for EMS and as manpower with SCBA, etc.
We have a heavy rescue and there was already some plans in the works to replace our two front line pumpers eventually with rescue-pumpers to have a set of rescue tools on apparatus at each station. So the plan to include rescue tools on the new 550 were scrapped. From a pump/tank standpoint, it was determined that we didn't really have a hole in our apparatus capabilities that a mini-pumper would fill.
It was never considered and it wouldn't have been a fit for what we used the truck for, however, one area we do have a small hole is with regard to properties with very large set-backs and limited driveway access that makes it very tough to get a full size pumper in. Something along the lines of midi might be a good fit. Two-man commerical cab with say a 1000 gpm Q-pak and a 750 tank with a full supply hose load. You could lay in from the street and you would have 750 of water to work off of until a supply was established. I think the real drawback of the mini's is the water tank size and you don't have that problem with a midi.
Good luck.
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some company's use it as a first attack truck to get the jump on the fire and have the big boys supply them with water.... for instance we have a junk yard that we can't get a pumper through and a mini pumper could walk rite through it and be supplied by a pumper from the streetThese opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of any organizations I am affiliated with.
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here is what we did f550 custom flatbed with a hp55o minuteman pumpLast edited by Station25C1; 08-03-2008, 04:53 PM.
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Also looking
Hi all,
My Dept is also looking to purchase a mini pumper. Our needs for this truck would be:
1. Qrs medical calls.
2. Daylight rescue truck for mva, car fires, brush fire. Used when there is light manpower
3. Specialty rescue for high angle rope recue, water rescue.
4. Support/rehab vehicle
If anyone knows of ANY mini pumpers please post them.YOU ONLY NEED TO BE STUPID ONCE TO BE DEAD FOREVER!
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Originally posted by bryan8138 View PostMy department is looking to go towards a mini pumper, I was wondering what people typically use there mini pumpers for. Any help would be great.
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Originally posted by rescue2400 View PostI can get you mini pumper. I need your email address so I can send a quote with the specs you want.
Mike
Below is copied from the Butterfield Enterprises forum topic:
There is person under firehouse s/n RESCUE 2400 that is trying to Representative our company that 100% has not a thing to do with our company. If anyone has been emailed by this person claiming to be a sales representative for Butterfield Enterprises it is not correct. I am the national sale manager and we have done some research through our paper work and found NO paperwork for this person or his company. I would like to Thank the one person so far that has contact us about this matter. Thanks and sorry i should have look closer to all the comments before posting that book before this that was my fault that i didn't i only went by what i have been told by the owners and other employees and didn't read all of them agin that was my fault. The apparatus pictures are from our website that have been used and are pictures of one of our vendors trucks. if you need a any of our company's contact numbers there are all listed on our website at the link provided below. Sorry for any problems that this might have caused and again rescue 2400 is not a employee of butterfield enterprises. The owners of our company are looking in to the matter closer it is not over and will be taken care of very soon. Again sorry for any problems that this caused. Please don't make this come back on Butterfield Enterpreises our company had not a thing to do with this matter. Thank you Jason for bringing this to my attention.
Bryan May
Butterfield Enterprises
Sales Manager
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Originally posted by FireBuffR1L2E3 View PostAhh yes you're the FAKE represenative trying to represent Butterfield Enterprises. Bryan don't fall for it.
Mike
Below is copied from the Butterfield Enterprises forum topic:
There is person under firehouse s/n RESCUE 2400 that is trying to Representative our company that 100% has not a thing to do with our company. If anyone has been emailed by this person claiming to be a sales representative for Butterfield Enterprises it is not correct. I am the national sale manager and we have done some research through our paper work and found NO paperwork for this person or his company. I would like to Thank the one person so far that has contact us about this matter. Thanks and sorry i should have look closer to all the comments before posting that book before this that was my fault that i didn't i only went by what i have been told by the owners and other employees and didn't read all of them agin that was my fault. The apparatus pictures are from our website that have been used and are pictures of one of our vendors trucks. if you need a any of our company's contact numbers there are all listed on our website at the link provided below. Sorry for any problems that this might have caused and again rescue 2400 is not a employee of butterfield enterprises. The owners of our company are looking in to the matter closer it is not over and will be taken care of very soon. Again sorry for any problems that this caused. Please don't make this come back on Butterfield Enterpreises our company had not a thing to do with this matter. Thank you Jason for bringing this to my attention.
Bryan May
Butterfield Enterprises
Sales Manager
http://butterfieldenterprises.com/contactus.htm
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