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    I would appreciate it if someone could help me out with this one. I was under the impression that NFPA 1901 (not sure if 2003 or 2007 edition) mandated reflective material on the interior cab doors, so that when they were open, drivers would see them. I know some departments put "STOP" signs on the inside of the doors, others just striping. I guess my question is, are the "STOP" signs really required or just the reflective striping? If it is a "STOP" sign, are there requirements for size of sign, letters, color, etc.? I can't afford at this time to buy a copy of NFPA 1901, so if anyone has knowledge of this topic, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

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    Originally posted by LtSuperG
    I would appreciate it if someone could help me out with this one. I was under the impression that NFPA 1901 (not sure if 2003 or 2007 edition) mandated reflective material on the interior cab doors, so that when they were open, drivers would see them. I know some departments put "STOP" signs on the inside of the doors, others just striping. I guess my question is, are the "STOP" signs really required or just the reflective striping? If it is a "STOP" sign, are there requirements for size of sign, letters, color, etc.? I can't afford at this time to buy a copy of NFPA 1901, so if anyone has knowledge of this topic, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
    If 1901 called for "STOP" signs on the inside of the doors, then every new rig you see would have them, since pretty much all manufacturers build strictly to NFPA. I happen to know new rigs currently don't have the "STOP" signs as standard equipment, therefore they are not called for in 1901.

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    • #3
      I'm not in a place to access 1901 currently to give you the quote, however I know that 1901 only requires reflective material. Can't remember the exact requirement, however I know on our new order a 6" x 16" reflective stripe was compliant.

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      • #4
        From NFPA 1901

        14.1.6 All driving and crew compartment doors shall have at least 96 in.2 (62,000 mm2) of reflective material affixed to the inside of each door.
        No indication about design or patterns.
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        • #5
          Yes, as the others have stated, the stop signs are not required, but do meet the intention of 1901 as long as they have the minimum square inches.

          We use them at work with good success.
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          • #6
            We just put those stop sings on our rigs, Nobody stops for them. Just remember all the idiots on the road that are more important than anyone else.

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            • #7
              We first put stop signs on our jump seat doors because we thought it would look cool and who knows someone may just stop.
              The latest instalment of 1901 mandates reflective material on the inside of the doors, it says nothing about patterns or shapes.
              We first saw the stop signs on some FDNY rigs quite a few years back, while visiting the big apple, that is where we got the idea.

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              • #8
                We just have 2 alternating LED lights, nothing super bright or in your face, but just to show that the truck sticks out right there and the door is opened!

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                • #9
                  Thanks

                  I want to thank everyone who replied. It's what I pretty much thought but I just wanted to confirm it. Take care and stay safe.

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