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  • #31
    With the 1000's of times those rigs are running, I'm curious as to how often these doors are popping open. Is it a common thing or a very rare occurrence?
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bones42
      With the 1000's of times those rigs are running, I'm curious as to how often these doors are popping open. Is it a common thing or a very rare occurrence?
      We go to 1000s of fires and didn't need personal escape ropes (according to TVE and Mr. Magoo) until a cold January day in 2005 when a rare situation occured and now two brothers are gone forever because our Commisioner at the time and the following one didn't listen to our Chiefs.

      Do we need to wait for another latch to fail before we correct this problem?

      FTM-PTB

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      • #33
        Clarification

        Can anyone provide answers or explanations to the following;

        1. Has the NTSB been notified of a potential need for a safety recall of all apparatus using this particular latch system?

        2. If the department is pushing its members to respond in an unsafe manner (i.e. no seatbelts, dress enroute) why is the union not pushing for a seated, belted, and dressed prior to responding policy?

        3. Who makes the latch? I doubt Seagrave makes the latch. Like most manufactures Seagrave probably buys the latch mechanism from a supplier. Why isn't the union pushing for the actual manufacturer of the latch to be held responsible?

        4. And finally how on God's earth can you (as a representative of FF's) honestly sit there with a straight face and say that a seatbelt may or may not have prevented the accident? (Before anybody jumps feet first in it, I do realize that anything is possible).

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        • #34
          FFFred, not saying the latches shouldn't be addressed. I was just curious if it's a common or uncommon event.
          "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bones42
            FFFred, not saying the latches shouldn't be addressed. I was just curious if it's a common or uncommon event.
            Hard to say. I know I've acidentally closed the top latch and was unable to close the door properly and had to release the latch to allow it to be properly closed. I'm sure it has happened but if no one falls out of the rig and it is your 7th run of the night tour and you have a million other things on your mind it will soon be forgotten.

            I'm sure it has happened prior to this but because it didn't seem important at the time, no one mentioned it. Now we can all see what an important issue this is.

            Remember Mr. Magoo had 5 months to address this and my BC just came around now and told us about this "safety issue" Once again...day late and a dollar short.(I'll bet you the deed to a certain bridge that crosses the East River that nothing more gets done unless the Unions press the issue.)

            This is going to be just part of the never ending battle with these clowns until 2009 when Bloomsh*t is out of office or Magoo finally has that stroke that is way past due.

            FTM-PTB

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            • #36
              Mr. Magoo
              I still love that.
              "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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              • #37
                Use a Japanese Cab/Chassis every day and then come back and talk to me!!

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