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  • Custom vs Commercial cab...let's talk safety.

    In the past week there have been multiple fire apparatus roll overs. Far too many in fact. But anyways let's talk about the safety difference between a custom and commercial cab. Custom cabs are designed to minimize crush in a rollover, commercial cabs do not have that and generally in a roll over crush like a pop can. So the thought occurred to me the other day was doesn't the NFPA require a roll cage type protection for commercial cab fire apparatus? It would still keep the cost of a commercial cab lower than a custom cab but offer at least minimal protection in the event of a roll over accident.

    Lets be clear, I am no fan of commercial cab fire apparatus. Amongst other things they waste 3 to 4 feet of space in the cab for the engine sitting out front. They do not have near the turning radius of a custom cab chassis. And lets be frank, cab space and arrangement sucks unless you put a Pope Mobile type crew compartment on it. There are more reasons but that should suffice to make my opinion known.
    Crazy, but that's how it goes
    Millions of people living as foes
    Maybe it's not too late
    To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

  • #2
    I would think they could integrate ROPS into the pumphouse.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mitchkrat View Post
      I would think they could integrate ROPS into the pumphouse.
      That could work. No changes to the cab then.
      Crazy, but that's how it goes
      Millions of people living as foes
      Maybe it's not too late
      To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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      • #4
        If you build the body up to the height of the cab roof the rollover protection structure could simply be integrated into the body design.
        Just a guy...

        Lieutenant - Woodbury, MN FD (Retired)
        Road Captain - Red Knights MC, MN4

        Disclaimer: The facts and opinions expressed above are mine, and mine alone, and are not intended to represent the views of any company I have ever worked for, past or present.

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        • #5
          It would be better than nothing. But a roll cage in the cab would be better.
          Crazy, but that's how it goes
          Millions of people living as foes
          Maybe it's not too late
          To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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          • #6
            Fyredup
            You can always buy European chassis cabs

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            • #7
              Originally posted by markyc View Post
              Fyredup
              You can always buy European chassis cabs
              OR I could buy American made custom cab with built in roll over protection.
              Crazy, but that's how it goes
              Millions of people living as foes
              Maybe it's not too late
              To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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              • #8
                Fyredup
                You could, but US apparatus are bit behind Europe

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by markyc View Post
                  Fyredup
                  You could, but US apparatus are bit behind Europe
                  That is egocentric hilarity.
                  Crazy, but that's how it goes
                  Millions of people living as foes
                  Maybe it's not too late
                  To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                  • #10
                    Fyred up, tell me that when you know what your talking about.
                    I know 2 American firemen that have been to UK , I ve shown them around, they admit US is years behind.
                    Have you been to UK, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands?

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                    • #11
                      Sure, lets go back to rolled up hose with no preconnects just for a starter. Oh, and the ridiculous UHP and booster reels.

                      Nope, and I've never been to Spain but I kind of like the music.

                      We will just have to agree to disagree.



                      Crazy, but that's how it goes
                      Millions of people living as foes
                      Maybe it's not too late
                      To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                      • #12
                        I have seen Pierce Mfg build roll cages into the cabs of Freightliner M2 4x4 brush trucks, approved by NFPA.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Woodbridge View Post
                          I have seen Pierce Mfg build roll cages into the cabs of Freightliner M2 4x4 brush trucks, approved by NFPA.
                          So if they can do it there why not on structural engines with commercial cabs?
                          Crazy, but that's how it goes
                          Millions of people living as foes
                          Maybe it's not too late
                          To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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