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  • Ascendant aerial load chart

    Has anyone actually seen a published load chart for the Ascendant? I've looked online and no luck. Really curious of tip loads for the single axle 107 footer at low angles off the side of the rig.
    Last edited by npfd801; 12-27-2018, 06:47 PM.
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    My in-town department just placed the 110' platform version in service; we have a weekend of training coming up 5-6 Jan. I'll post once I know more.
    Two departments, twice the fun...

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    • #3
      I was at the Pierce factory last week for a final inspection visit on our rig, there were two 107 sticks on the blue floor and I think that someone said the tip load is 750#

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      • #4
        IIRC the Midmount has a 1000 lb load dry in any position, diminished to 500# flowing water.

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        • #5
          Took the new platform out for some driving practice yesterday, and also got to work the platform a bit prior to next weeks training. That truck is a dream to drive; the platform is going to take some getting used to, hanging over the front.

          Here's the chart off of the control pedestal. I would imagine the 107 stick isn't too much different.

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          • #6
            Hey MikeG344,
            I like the single axle Ascendant platform but dislike the Monitor Nozzle being under the bucket on the fly section. The platform is much better than working off a stick, when trying to ventilate a roof, much safer !

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Woodbridge View Post
              Hey MikeG344,
              I like the single axle Ascendant platform but dislike the Monitor Nozzle being under the bucket on the fly section. The platform is much better than working off a stick, when trying to ventilate a roof, much safer !
              Yes, I'm looking forward to working off of the bucket. Our Chief pushed for us to have one.

              With regards to the design, its like Pierce took the 107 stick and grafted the bucket on which is why the monitor is where it is.
              Two departments, twice the fun...

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              • #8
                We placed the first 107' in Texas into service and like it so much we ordered a 2nd one. The tip load is in fact 750# dry and 500# wet. Being a "Pierce Department", and in the interest of full transparency, do not think a 107' is the same as any other aerial. It does have its limitations and particularities. But like any other apparatus if you train with it then they aren't limitations.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 68truck View Post
                  We placed the first 107' in Texas into service and like it so much we ordered a 2nd one. The tip load is in fact 750# dry and 500# wet. Being a "Pierce Department", and in the interest of full transparency, do not think a 107' is the same as any other aerial. It does have its limitations and particularities. But like any other apparatus if you train with it then they aren't limitations.

                  Care to share what you have found are its particularities and limitations?

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                  • #10
                    The following is for a single axle 107'. The tandem axle option is available but I have no experience with that set-up...

                    Rear axle rating on the single axle version is 33,000lbs so that means disc brakes are not available on the rear axle but are on the front. I believe the cut-off for disc brakes is a 27,000lb axle.

                    Tank size is limited to 500 gallons maximum no matter water only or water/foam combination. While thats pretty normal for quints it can be limiting for some departments who want more.

                    Body layout/configuration is limited to essentially 3-body options: Dry truck (no pump/no tank), quint set-up with split hose bed or quint set-up with a single side stacker style right side hose bed. Hence an issue if you run the split hose bed quint body and need to lay a supply line. The split hose bed for 5" can hold around 700' on the deep side so if you have longer lays than that you will need to stop to connect the other bed. It works for us because our average hydrant spacing is 300' but it could be a limitation for others.

                    Pump configuration is limited to either a side mount pump panel or a PUC set-up (no pedestal mount option for those who use them). This then leaves 2-options for speed lays (with the PUC) being either open ended or enclosed behind doors. On the PUC you do NOT have a choice about electric valves on the officer side pump panel. This is because of the limited space for push/pull rods so you will have electric valves like it or not. Also with a PUC your max pump rating will be 1500GPM given its a PTO pump. While it will pump more than the rated capacity off a hydrant, the actual rating won't exceed 1500GPM. This was one of the reasons the new 107' we just ordered will be a side mount pump panel to achieve a 2000GPM pump capacity rating and traditional cross lays versus a 1500GPM PUC and speed lays behind doors.

                    Aerial set-up and operation is probably the greatest difference. Given the 2-"H" style stabilizer/1-under body stabilizer design the set-up does include lifting the rear end up while depressing the front end noticeably to essentially create another stabilizer with the front suspension depressed. While not that big of a deal it does take some getting accustom to. The key on arrival is "squaring up" on the building so the aerial is off to the side as perpendicular to the body as possible. While it will work at angles off centerline the load management system will limit the maximum extension of the aerial (although it can be overridden). While this could be a big deal for some departments, in our city the ability to "square up" on the building is very common as well as being able to spot to deploy to the rear.

                    You have to remember you are driving and operating an aerial. I say that because it truly drives like, and feels like, driving/operating a pumper.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 68truck View Post
                      You have to remember you are driving and operating an aerial. I say that because it truly drives like, and feels like, driving/operating a pumper.
                      Our 110' platform is smoother on the road than the Spartan Metrostar pump in our fleet.

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