Toyne and LTI

[chiefengineer11]

What happened between Toyne, and RK, for the ladders???

Sam, do I already know the answer to this????

FM1

I think so.

[FIREMECH1]

What happened between Toyne, and RK, for the ladders???

Sam, do I already know the answer to this????

FM1

[islandfire03]

As I'm a guy that's looking for work in the sales field once again, I'm better off saying less. But I do know that lots of builders that once used ALF prior to them being shut off from everyone before had plenty to say about the issues they had with ALF. I find it interesting that some are already right there ready to use them again, especially with all of the problems ALF has had in the past few years.

Hopefully, ALF will do well with this new business model, and everyone succeeds. I for one, would be terrified as a salesman that ALF's chassis or aerial would be delivered well beyond when it should be.

OR not at all when they pull the plug again!

[npfd801]

Care to Elaborate?

I for one am happy to see the aerial market open up from RK (Smeal to some extent), though don't get me wrong I see nothing wrong with either mentioned

As I'm a guy that's looking for work in the sales field once again, I'm better off saying less. But I do know that lots of builders that once used ALF prior to them being shut off from everyone before had plenty to say about the issues they had with ALF. I find it interesting that some are already right there ready to use them again, especially with all of the problems ALF has had in the past few years.

Hopefully, ALF will do well with this new business model, and everyone succeeds. I for one, would be terrified as a salesman that ALF's chassis or aerial would be delivered well beyond when it should be.

[CanadianFyrTrks]

I had one hell of a post typed up, then I thought better of it.

Best of luck to all involved in this new endeavor...

Care to Elaborate?

I for one am happy to see the aerial market open up from RK (Smeal to some extent), though don't get me wrong I see nothing wrong with either mentioned

[npfd801]

I'm sure that Toyne and others made sure that parts were available first. I can't imagine any OEM jumping in without knowing exactly what to expect.....

I had one hell of a post typed up, then I thought better of it.

Best of luck to all involved in this new endeavor...

[rmcatee1]

I'm sure that Toyne and others made sure that parts were available first. I can't imagine any OEM jumping in without knowing exactly what to expect.....

[CanadianFyrTrks]

Toyne should have made a deal with Smeal, at least they can get parts for the aerials. trying to get parts & service for any ALF/LTI apparatus maybe difficult in the near future?

I would think it's a wait and see situation with ALF, I imagine at this point they have their Ducks in a row in order to sell off their chassis' and aerials to other manufacturers... Maybe Desperate Times call for desperate measures.

[WoodbridgeFFII]

Toyne should have made a deal with Smeal, at least they can get parts for the aerials. trying to get parts & service for any ALF/LTI apparatus maybe difficult in the near future?

[Rescue101]

RK, or Rosenbauer Lyons at least, cut Tyone off on the RK product so if they don't like them using American LaFrance aerials they have no one to blame but themselves.

I DOUBT it was Robs idea. Although I can see why Harold would grate over it. T.c.

[Rescue101]

Ephrata, Pa.

By the folks that KNOW them Best,T.C.

[BoxAlarm187]

Rumor has it that Squrts and Telesqurts will be available to OEMs.

I can confirm that's true.

In fact, here's a press release (dated today) from Virginia's CustomFire dealer about this.

[rmcatee1]

If memory serves me correct, there has not been a Snorkel manufactured since 2001 (give or take).

C6

Your memory is right on. We talked about this in a thread I started in September of last year. The 3 Chicago Snorkel Squads were the last of the Snorkel product built, according to an email I received from ALF.

[tomwnh]

RK caused them to go to LTI

Toyne with LTI? What's NOT to like about that? Don't think RK will like it but who knows. I'll be inteested ti see how that marriage looks, should make a NICE rig. T.C.

RK, or Rosenbauer Lyons at least, cut Tyone off on the RK product so if they don't like them using American LaFrance aerials they have no one to blame but themselves.

[chiefengineer11]

Or why not just sell off the intellectual property rights for that line? You at least get yourself some $ that way. It seems like ALF is getting $0 for a product (Telesqurts and Squrts) that at least in theory should have some value.

I know that Snorkels are now a really small niche product, but obviously there are people (especially in Chicagoland) who still want them. I never got why ALF just quit making them rather than sell off the rights to the design to somebody.

I'm sure you're right, there should be a niche market for them. I don't claim to know any answers, but I'll take a shot in the dark. It's called liability. The engineering bucks it would take to bring them up to today's standards and for testing and certification would be pretty astronomical. Not to mention manufacturing tooling as well. Unless you have a pretty large order book for them, it's doubtful that anyone could cost justify what it would take. Real shame, while time and experience showed us that they had alot of limitations, they did have their uses. I'll make a guess that ALF may have tried to sell it, but no takers.

Rumor has it that Squrts and Telesqurts will be available to OEMs.