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Originally posted by FDsouthbxNY View PostThe FDNY has never run a system like this. THANK GOD! It sucks! Quints are nothing more than a way to cut staffing and save city money while short changing on ACTUAL fire protection. Engine/Truck, the only way to go.
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Originally posted by nameless View Postthats exactly what they did too. Rochester took Engine/Truck houses with 6 firemen and 2 officers, and folded it into the Quint/Midi's with 5 firemen and 1 officer. The system worked alright for them, they run their fair shares of fire(Rochester is like a less crappy Detroit, but not by much) and ran this system for 20+ years. Now that they are going back to Engines/Trucks (actually quints but shhhh... we'll just call them trucks) they are just cutting the midi's out and creating a 4 man engine or "truck" out of the once 6 man company.
(9 firemen and 2 officers) and replacing it with a quint and cutting the staffing in half. This would severely reduce operational capacity. Quints are a way for cities to cut staffing and pretend that fire protection is the same. A big fat lie.
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Sadly, I don't see the $$ situation in Rochester getting better any time soon... Too many jobs have left, and many who DO have good jobs left the city for quieter, less crime ridden neighborhoods.
Seems like every time I log on Monroe county fire wire, every second or third story is a structure fire in Rochester... At that rate, there won't be much city left!
I can agree that using a combo rig to shrink your labor pool pretty much stinks. So does being short on dough. Done right though, a quint can ADD to your capability- if you run them as trucks WITH an engine.
I think they're probably a better deal in volly depts. It puts all your tools right there in front. We love ours, the committee designed it to be a good truck first, to replace an out of service stick.
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Originally posted by FWDbuff View PostYou guys would put a stick, a pump, and 500 water on a single rear???
correction: i believe it has 400 water.
all this talk about junk crap garbage trash trucks. at least none you poor bastards were stuck with one the last "spare parts" new lex that rolled off the line.
50K ontop of the original price for just repairing all the problems via 3rd party builder. id take a ferrara any day. at least they are still in business and can have the opportunity to screw us on a warranty.
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Originally posted by bruce355 View PostThe third party thing is why We will no longer buy a truck unless its from a single source. Too much finger pointing."Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."
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Originally posted by FWDbuff View PostThen do what we did- Put into your spec that the "Builder assumes any and all warranty liability."Career Fire Captain
Volunteer Chief Officer
Never taking for granted that I'm privileged enough to have the greatest job in the world!
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Originally posted by bruce355 View PostThe third party thing is why We will no longer buy a truck unless its from a single source. Too much finger pointing.
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