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    Anybody know how to trace the original buyer of a Mack pumper using the shop number?
    “I am more than just a serious basketball fan. I am a life-long addict. I was addicted from birth, in fact, because I was born in Kentucky.”
    ― Hunter S. Thompson

  • #2
    Originally posted by EastKyFF View Post
    Anybody know how to trace the original buyer of a Mack pumper using the shop number?
    1. Did you try Mack?

    2. One of the knowledgeable people that I know of on the subject of Mack apparatus is Harvey Eckart of Berwick, Pa. I know he has extensive files on their fire truck production, having written several books on the subject. Sorry, I don't have his street address in front of me, but you can look it up. If you don't have access to any of his books, try a public library. I'm pretty sure it's in "The Last of the Breed," if not in the others.

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    • #3
      Yes. Contact the Mack Trucks Museum/Archives, located in Allentown, Pa. In most cases they have records indicating the original purchaser.


      http://www.macktrucks.com/default.aspx?pageid=40

      EDIT: Chiefengineer11 beat me by 2 minutes. Harvey volunteers at the museum. If you need his number, PM me, I have it. But you should be able to get what you need by contacting the museum, they are always very helpful to owners of old Bulldogs.
      Last edited by FWDbuff; 12-02-2010, 11:42 AM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by EastKyFF View Post
        Anybody know how to trace the original buyer of a Mack pumper using the shop number?
        You don't know where it came from, is that it? Or you want to know where its been during its life?
        Stay Safe and Well Out There....

        Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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        • #5
          OP: Check your PM's.
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          • #6
            The truck is for sale at a new truck dealer. I saw it when we went there to do final instructions for our new pumper, and today I stumbled across it on somebody's Flickr. The discussion there included the shop number plus all kinds of speculation about where it had been. The dealer is dying to get it out of the way, so I thought I'd see if I could drum up any marketable information on it.

            Thanks to all.
            “I am more than just a serious basketball fan. I am a life-long addict. I was addicted from birth, in fact, because I was born in Kentucky.”
            ― Hunter S. Thompson

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EastKyFF View Post
              The truck is for sale at a new truck dealer. I saw it when we went there to do final instructions for our new pumper, and today I stumbled across it on somebody's Flickr. The discussion there included the shop number plus all kinds of speculation about where it had been. The dealer is dying to get it out of the way, so I thought I'd see if I could drum up any marketable information on it.

              Thanks to all.
              When you say "shop number" are you referring to the body builder's number, if it is not an all-Mack built truck? I ask because the Mack archives are stored by Mack's VIN.
              "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post
                When you say "shop number" are you referring to the body builder's number, if it is not an all-Mack built truck? I ask because the Mack archives are stored by Mack's VIN.
                All-Mack, I assume. Here's the photo (credit not mine)
                “I am more than just a serious basketball fan. I am a life-long addict. I was addicted from birth, in fact, because I was born in Kentucky.”
                ― Hunter S. Thompson

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EastKyFF View Post
                  All-Mack, I assume. Here's the photo (credit not mine)
                  I am highly confident that this was originally owned by FDNY, although it has been heavily modified in it's life. The dead give-away is the angle of the back of the canopy cab. Rather than being at an angle parallel with the angled side windows, it goes straight up. Mack only did this for FDNY: the straight edge was made to accomodate a set of doors that opened away from you if you were sitting in the seat with your back to the driver/officer. (The door opened toward the body of the rig.) Another give-away is the front intake and the siren speaker, as well as the make up of the discharges on the curb side of the pump. Somone in the forum commented about the high-side of the body. FDNY's did have high sides, in order to accomodate their hosebeds and "conestoga wagon" canvas covers. FDNY did not have mattydales. Someone else commented about FDNY having lime-green Macks. This was true, there were 9 of them, however this was not one of them. Those Macks the person was commenting on were later in years than this one, and were the traditional 4-door trucks that we are more familiar with.

                  Yup, I am going with FDNY.

                  And to add, Chiefengineer11, didn't Mack have a way of identifying FDNY rigs through the use of unique VIN's??????????
                  Last edited by FWDbuff; 12-02-2010, 04:23 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post
                    Wanna bet a Department T-Shirt that was originally purchased by FDNY???
                    Well if it was an FDNY rig, who ever refurbed it did a great job. A local volly department bought a used Mack rig from FDNY. It was rode hard and put away wet. It had dents and dings all over it. I told them they were crazy to even be riding in that whipped mule.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by donethat View Post
                      Well if it was an FDNY rig, who ever refurbed it did a great job. A local volly department bought a used Mack rig from FDNY. It was rode hard and put away wet. It had dents and dings all over it. I told them they were crazy to even be riding in that whipped mule.
                      Ex FDNY Macks are some of the toughest rigs on the planet earth. If I was a volunteer dept needing something for cheap, and I had a budget to refurb, I would seriously think about doing it. But to do it, you would have to do it right.

                      And back to EastKY- If you are REALLY interested, if you do get the VIN, and confirm it's ex FDNY, get me the VIN and I'll get you the complete history of it's life with FDNY. (Yes I know enough to be dangerous.)
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                      • #12
                        Buff, I've already been in contact with MM, who confirms it's an FDNY rig, and he's going to get me the rest of the information tonight or tomorrow.
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                        • #13
                          Wow! You guys are as resourceful as MacGyver.

                          I saw the rig face to face and noticed the cab is painted yellow inside as well, which tells me the refurb done by Summit Fire Apparatus was very thorough--not just Bondo & Krylon.

                          Interesting stuff. Thanks a million
                          “I am more than just a serious basketball fan. I am a life-long addict. I was addicted from birth, in fact, because I was born in Kentucky.”
                          ― Hunter S. Thompson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by EastKyFF View Post
                            Wow! You guys are as resourceful as MacGyver.

                            I saw the rig face to face and noticed the cab is painted yellow inside as well, which tells me the refurb done by Summit Fire Apparatus was very thorough--not just Bondo & Krylon.

                            Interesting stuff. Thanks a million



                            You ask and you shall receive!!


                            BTW Who has it now?? What is the guy seeking, $??
                            Stay Safe and Well Out There....

                            Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
                              You ask and you shall receive!!


                              BTW Who has it now?? What is the guy seeking, $??
                              Dealer in Lexington, KY, assuming it hasn't sold in the last four weeks. I think it could be had RATHER affordably. Let me check on it and I'll PM you the contact information.
                              “I am more than just a serious basketball fan. I am a life-long addict. I was addicted from birth, in fact, because I was born in Kentucky.”
                              ― Hunter S. Thompson

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