Dumb question from a guy who has not operated a fire aerial, what harm does it do to operate the waterway from the rescue position other than shortening the height?
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Originally posted by mcwops View PostDumb question from a guy who has not operated a fire aerial, what harm does it do to operate the waterway from the rescue position other than shortening the height?"Share your knowledge - it's a way to achieve immortality." - Stolen from Chase Sargent's Buddy to Boss program
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Originally posted by npfd801 View PostThe big deal is the nozzle and waterway usually impedes close in work to a window sill, etc. if locked in at full extension. Most newer ladder tip loads are still 500 pounds (or greater) at all elevations, full extension, and at 90 degrees to the aerial.
As I said, probably a dumb question, but curious mind would like to know.
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Originally posted by mcwops View PostActually I meant the opposite, what trouble is caused by operating the nozzle while NOT being pinned to full extension, such as in the picture posted earlier in the thread?
As I said, probably a dumb question, but curious mind would like to know.
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Another aspect to consider is doing basic truck work. Rescue mode is necessary to placing FFs on the roof for ventilation, taking handlines through a window, etc. All of which are time dependent.
Unless you are using the ladder pipe for an offensive "Blitz Attack" you have the extra time to repositin the pin
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Originally posted by Squirt1262 View PostAnother aspect to consider is doing basic truck work. Rescue mode is necessary to placing FFs on the roof for ventilation, taking handlines through a window, etc. All of which are time dependent.
Unless you are using the ladder pipe for an offensive "Blitz Attack" you have the extra time to repositin the pin
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Due to the few times that we have used the ladder pipe in the past, we keep it in the rescue position. If its Big Fire needing big water, change it over before you start flyingIt takes a little intelligence to enjoy humor,satire & wit, but none to be offended by it.
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Originally posted by VanIsleEVT View PostYou mean a Metz right. No waterway to worry about crushing and extreme speed for rescue. And with that extreme speed you get target control ( optional ) and smoothness like no other.
And the fact that you CAN get a full waterway if you so desire? AND not lose any of the other features by doing so? T.C.
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Originally posted by Rescue101 View PostHmmn.........Did you ALSO take time to note there is NO "pinned" waterway on a Metz?Originally posted by VanIsleEVT View PostYou mean a Metz right. No waterway to worry about crushing and extreme speed for rescue. And with that extreme speed you get target control ( optional ) and smoothness like no other.
I'll bet you see a few more American aerials with waterways that won't crush on parapets in the upcoming year. My understanding is that FDNY will not accept a tower ladder with a waterway on the underside.
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Pinned shopping cart and a waterway that impedes climbing? No thanks.
I'll bet you see a few more American aerials with waterways that won't crush on parapets in the upcoming year. My understanding is that FDNY will not accept a tower ladder with a waterway on the underside.
Maybe FDNY will be ordering Sutphens then, they've always done it that way.
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Originally posted by RFDACM02 View PostPinned shopping cart and a waterway that impedes climbing? No thanks.
I'll bet you see a few more American aerials with waterways that won't crush on parapets in the upcoming year. My understanding is that FDNY will not accept a tower ladder with a waterway on the underside.
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