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    First pictures of the new Rescue. Saw it last week. Built like a tank. Very happy so far.

    http://www.ferrarafire.com/CustomerS...roduction.html

  • #2
    Herd from some FDNY firefighter friends of mine that a lot of the guys are not happy about the city going with Ferrara. It looks like Houston is moving away from them. Does anyone know why?
    cp

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    • #3
      Houston did just receive 2 Pierce Arrow XT 100' aluminum aerials in the last 2 months assigned to Ladder Co. 28 and Ladder Co. 68, both in SW Houston.

      Both of these rigs replaced Ferrara Igniter/Smeal 107' steel aerials which are being re-assigned to Ladder Co. 04 (NW) and Ladder Co. 26 (SE) respectively.
      Stay low and move it in.

      Be safe.


      Larry

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      • #4
        I do like the looks of the new Ferrara S/S split-tilt cab for the FDNY rescue trucks and RM aerials much better than their standard custom cabs (Inferno and Igniter). The new cab looks sort of similar in the front to the cab Ferrara built years back for the FDNY HP pumpers (e.g., E54). Also, I was suprised to see that the rescue trucks (ladder trucks too?) come equipped with a Federal Q2B. The individual companies that receive these new trucks won't have to add them later on.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ladderman View Post
          Herd from some FDNY firefighter friends of mine that a lot of the guys are not happy about the city going with Ferrara. It looks like Houston is moving away from them. Does anyone know why?
          Because they are junk.

          How many FDNY fireman does it take to make a herd?
          RK
          cell #901-494-9437

          Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.

          "Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.


          Comments made are my own. They do not represent the official position or opinion of the Fire Department or the City for which I am employed. In fact, they are normally exactly the opposite.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LeadOff View Post
            Also, I was suprised to see that the rescue trucks (ladder trucks too?) come equipped with a Federal Q2B. The individual companies that receive these new trucks won't have to add them later on.
            You can tell that from the picture?
            RK
            cell #901-494-9437

            Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.

            "Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.


            Comments made are my own. They do not represent the official position or opinion of the Fire Department or the City for which I am employed. In fact, they are normally exactly the opposite.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
              You can tell that from the picture?
              Description says it will have an eQ2B.

              And were the previous FDNY rescues two door trucks?
              Career Firefighter
              Volunteer Captain

              -Professional in Either Role-

              Originally posted by Rescue101
              I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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              • #8
                i think all of their rescues have been walk ins with a 2 man cab.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GTRider245 View Post
                  Description says it will have an eQ2B.

                  And were the previous FDNY rescues two door trucks?
                  Oh crap, I didn't see the "E" in front of the Q2B in the write-up. That makes more sense for the FDNY than buying the real thing.

                  The Pierce that R1 had and the E-One/Saulsbury rescues were two-door cabs. The HME/Saulsbury rescues before that were 4-door cabs. Here's one of the 4-doors:

                  http://fdnytrucks.com/files/html/manhattan/r1.htm
                  Last edited by LeadOff; 09-23-2010, 12:22 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Are these the trucks that you see in the fire buff videos with the open rear doors and guys riding in the back?
                    Career Firefighter
                    Volunteer Captain

                    -Professional in Either Role-

                    Originally posted by Rescue101
                    I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GTRider245 View Post
                      Are these the trucks that you see in the fire buff videos with the open rear doors and guys riding in the back?
                      I do believe so.

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                      • #12
                        • Vannair 200 CFM PTO air compressor
                        • DP Manufacturing 25,000 pound hydraulic driven winch at rear
                        • Ramsey 5,000 pound portable winch with left/right side anchor points
                        • Refrigerator/freezer inside body
                        • Onan 25kW hydraulic generator on 1000# capacity roll out tray
                        • Hannay electric rewind cord reels, one 120V and one 240V
                        Nice features.
                        The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. --Norman Mattoon Thomas, 6 time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America

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                        • #13
                          Sure gonna be hard to fill dem compartments der wit dem cross braces der.

                          http://www.ferrarafire.com/CustomerS...2/DSC_2723.JPG











                          Thanks. I'll be here all week... You've been great.

                          Seriously, now here's a question. Aren't all the enclosures that fire personnel ride in supposed to be third party tested to meet crash worthiness requirements? So how are these builders that make walk-in rescues with seating and those that add crew compartments on the back of commercial chassis pumpers and so forth pulling this off?

                          NFPA 1901 - 14.3.2 - Cabs on apparatus with a GVWR greather than 26,000 lb shall meet the requirements of one of the following set of standards:

                          (1) SAE J2420
                          (2) ECE Regulation number 29

                          Now, yes - it says CAB but any decent sleaze lawyer will convince a jury that a cab of a fire apparatus is where anyone is provided a seat with a belt... And one builder was at FDIC a couple years back showing an enclosed top mount enclosure with a sign stating it would be NFPA compliant with third party testing meeting the necessary crash standards, but I've heard nothing of that since.

                          Interestingly enough, tiller seating positions are apparently for those that can be sacrificed.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
                            Because they are junk.

                            How many FDNY fireman does it take to make a herd?
                            Depends on Locale, T.C.

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                            • #15
                              I notice that Ferrara is building the body off the chassis for this rescue unlike most the other trucks they build. I would think building the body off the chassis would bring a better finished product.

                              Was this cab built in house at Ferrara? I'm curious to know how satisfied FDNY will be with Ferrara a few years from now..

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