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  • Rescue101
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    Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
    With a system that is only 784 psi more than what you're trying to fill, proper cascading techniques will be very important.

    I've seen people just open all the cylinders at once, then after just a few fills, they're TO'd because they can't make complete fills anymore. New technology takes out the guesswork, but it ain't cheap. Check out Bauer's Auto Cascade device here: http://www.bauercomp.com/uploads/pdf...de%20Flyer.pdf

    How many banks (cylinders) does your 3,000 psi system have?

    A booster pump may be a logical choice for you to really extend the use of the system. It will take air from lower pressure cylinders, and increase it to the amount necessary to make a complete fill.

    For example, when Bank #1 is at 1,000 psi, you can channel air from it to the booster pump, which will increase it to 3,000 psi as it goes to Bank #4. Then you have sufficient air to make a complete fill.

    While I've never used a booster pump, some people like them, other people hate them. Here are some examples: http://www.americanairworks.com/electricbooster.html

    Also, there is an fairly precise formula out there. It's on page 8 of this document from Bauer Compressors.
    Yup,Kinda like those pendulum swinging balls. A booster helps but you're still gonna be short. T.C.

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  • txgp17
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    With a system that is only 784 psi more than what you're trying to fill, proper cascading techniques will be very important.

    I've seen people just open all the cylinders at once, then after just a few fills, they're TO'd because they can't make complete fills anymore. New technology takes out the guesswork, but it ain't cheap. Check out Bauer's Auto Cascade device here: http://www.bauercomp.com/uploads/pdf...de%20Flyer.pdf

    How many banks (cylinders) does your 3,000 psi system have?

    A booster pump may be a logical choice for you to really extend the use of the system. It will take air from lower pressure cylinders, and increase it to the amount necessary to make a complete fill.

    For example, when Bank #1 is at 1,000 psi, you can channel air from it to the booster pump, which will increase it to 3,000 psi as it goes to Bank #4. Then you have sufficient air to make a complete fill.

    While I've never used a booster pump, some people like them, other people hate them. Here are some examples: http://www.americanairworks.com/electricbooster.html

    Also, there is an fairly precise formula out there. It's on page 8 of this document from Bauer Compressors.
    Last edited by txgp17; 07-06-2010, 11:15 AM.

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  • Rescue101
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    SHORT answer: NOT MANY. A 3000 system is better than NOTHING but not by much. Like the others said,learn about proper cascade use and try it. Then you'll have you answer. Size(CF)of the 3000's,level in the bottles you're filling and temperature all affect how many you'll fill. Good luck. T.C.

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  • slackjawedyokel
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    And how full or empty the bottles you are filling are. Set it up and do some drills, that will give you somewhat of a handle on its capabalities. Practice with it and MAYBE you wont "equalize" it when you really need it.

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  • Car651
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    Your answer is entirely dependent on the volume of the 3000 PSI cylinders being used.

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  • volfireman034
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    3000 psi cascade system

    We had a 3000psi cascade system donated to us and we were wondering if anyone has a chart or knows how many 2215 bottles we can fill per cascade bottle on avg. I'm assuming the scba bottles are at about 500 psi low. Anyone know where I can get the information? Thanks.

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