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  • FIREMECH1
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    Originally posted by Tim1118
    Has any progress been made on this topic? Would those interested like me to set something up, or would you prefer to keep in FH.com?
    I appreciate your offering, I really do. I have 2 sites of my own, and thought about making one, to fill this hole. But as noted by another, it would be best if this could be kept in-house. One less site that one has to click on, or navigate. As well, the majority will spend more time here, than anywhere else.

    I am not speaking for the masses, just my opinion.

    FM1

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  • Tim1118
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    Has any progress been made on this topic? Would those interested like me to set something up, or would you prefer to keep in FH.com?

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  • Tim1118
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    I think this would be a great idea... however, I think one-off complaints could be helpful as well. If one department mentions it, it could bring others out of the woodwork that are experiencing the same issue, but maybe didn't realize that it was an actual malfunction of some sort.

    Maybe have a rule for new threads so that the title will contain the brand and model of the malfunctioning component, and then a very brief description of the problem?
    Last edited by Tim1118; 07-05-2010, 10:07 PM. Reason: Afterthought...

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  • rm1524
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    I'm in.

    I agree that this should be an information section only. No cry baby stuff, no running down of any brand, and no trying to sell someone on your favorite.

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  • FIREMECH1
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    Something like this I would imagine would work fine.



    I agree 100% on the policing/moderating of it. We don't need posts that is coming in with "hear say", or second hand knowledge. You must be privy to the facts, and have first hand knowledge.
    Same with resolutions. Guessing here won't cut it. You must have either experience with the repair, or fixes from the manufacturer/builder. As for diagnostics, that might be a gray area, as to who is doing it, and what it is they are diagnosing.

    Knock-knock.... Web Team, are you reading this???

    FM1
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  • Tim1118
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    The website I have created is working it's way towards being all-encompassing for fire apparatus. I initially geared it towards truck committees to find information for new trucks (yes, it's still a work in progress), but I think that the type of forum you guys are looking for would be beneficial for them as well. If you'd like, I can certainly create one. However, I think I would need an EVT (one of you guys) to help moderate if possible.

    Just let me know...

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  • 1OLDTIMER
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    Originally posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    I can't disagree with either one of you two. It was on my mind at the time I was posting, and let it go.

    It would be nice if the WEB TEAM would open another forum, something like "Apparatus Issues". This would be a good place to start on keeping track of "issues". FM1
    Sounds like a "neon-light" idea. Looks like the ball is in the WEB-TEAM's court.

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  • Fire304
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    Originally posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    It would be nice if the WEB TEAM would open another forum, something like "Apparatus Issues". FM1
    Agreed, it should be a multi tiered forum where you can drill down to the specific items you're talking about,

    eg., Apparatus Issues,
    -------Mechanical Issues,
    -----------Suspension,
    --------------Steering
    ------------------Ball joint failure on Brand L Heavy Rescue.

    I think it should also be heavily moderated for three issues (and maybe more):
    1) Editorials are not allowed, I can just see 2 people complaining about "Brand X" electronics and a Brand Y'er comes in and starts talking trash about "you should have bought a you-know-what."

    2) Opinions are not allowed, if this is to be a true reporting system then there is no room for people to come in and say "those are junk anyway," stick to the facts and start another thread if you want to talk opinions.

    3) Ambiguity should be censored, we don't need a thread full of "my buddy's pumper has an electrical issue" it should be very specific, eg., "My pumper, a 2003 Brand Z Model Q had the left handed widget A-D converter fail, the truck was last serviced on XX/XX/XXXX by FD personnel (specify trained or not trained as EVT's). Has anyone else experienced this" Responses should be limited to persons with first hand knowledge of the facts.

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  • FIREMECH1
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    Originally posted by chiefengineer
    But on the other hand, if it happens to me only once in a lifetime, but the same thing happens to someone else or several someone elses once in each's lifetime a pattern may begin to evolve. And if someone solves the problem, it may save the rest a bunch of time and effort.
    Originally posted by Rescue101
    Actually,what MAY seem like an ISOLATED failure to one,might if posted, wind up being a more widespread problem that originally thought. No harm in posting as I see it. T.C.
    I can't disagree with either one of you two. It was on my mind at the time I was posting, and let it go.

    It would be nice if the WEB TEAM would open another forum, something like "Apparatus Issues". This would be a good place to start on keeping track of "issues".

    FM1

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  • Rescue101
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    Originally posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    I don't have a problem with it, but....

    This should be geared to known issues and problems, or repeat failures. Posting up single failures that happen once or twice in a rigs lifetime shouldn't be allowed. If you have multiple rigs of the same year/build/spec/etc that have a common failure, then post it up. The ROM switches that had problems would have been good to see here.

    I like the idea, believe me. But I think a third party unbiased site would work out better.

    Us EVT's do have a site that we communicate known problems or issues, and somewhat keep track of others. As well, help those that are unfamiliar with some problems/issues.

    Have a look: http://www.evta.info/forums/

    FM1
    Actually,what MAY seem like an ISOLATED failure to one,might if posted, wind up being a more widespread problem that originally thought. No harm in posting as I see it. T.C.

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  • chiefengineer11
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    I have to have mixed feelings on whether or not to report one-time or oddball failures. On the one hand, as FM points out, you don't want to clutter up a site with a bunch of once in a lifetime stuff. It makes everything else harder to find.

    But on the other hand, if it happens to me only once in a lifetime, but the same thing happens to someone else or several someone elses once in each's lifetime a pattern may begin to evolve. And if someone solves the problem, it may save the rest a bunch of time and effort.

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  • RFDACM02
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    Originally posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    I don't have a problem with it, but....

    This should be geared to known issues and problems, or repeat failures. Posting up single failures that happen once or twice in a rigs lifetime shouldn't be allowed. If you have multiple rigs of the same year/build/spec/etc that have a common failure, then post it up. The ROM switches that had problems would have been good to see here.
    While I understand your point, many fire apparatus are the only one like it a particular FD has, so a huge amount of issues would go on unreported. Maybe a clearing house, where all the single reports just go to be searched, but area not threads unto themselves. I believe the ROM door switch issue started this way. For example: a reported issue would note the type of problem, any system known to be affected, signs and symptoms reported before the issue and any corrections taken. If it's a single issue it would just go off to never never thread land like many thread topics here.
    Originally posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    I like the idea, believe me. But I think a third party unbiased site would work out better.
    Clearly the third party site would be best, but we do use FH.com to see if people have had similar issues, so a little formalization here would help barring a better current site?

    [/QUOTE]

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  • SPFDRum
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    I like the idea. I'm not an EVT, but do get tasked to drive OOT once in awhile. This info would be great for me.

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  • 1OLDTIMER
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    Originally posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    I don't have a problem with it, but....Us EVT's do have a site that we communicate known problems or issues, and somewhat keep track of others. As well, help those that are unfamiliar with some problems/issues.

    Have a look: http://www.evta.info/forums/

    FM1
    Thanks FM1 for the "link." It is obvious the EVTA forums have most of "it" covered. That's what I deserve for "thinking" again...besides it gives me a headache...

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  • FIREMECH1
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    I don't have a problem with it, but....

    This should be geared to known issues and problems, or repeat failures. Posting up single failures that happen once or twice in a rigs lifetime shouldn't be allowed. If you have multiple rigs of the same year/build/spec/etc that have a common failure, then post it up. The ROM switches that had problems would have been good to see here.

    I like the idea, believe me. But I think a third party unbiased site would work out better.

    Us EVT's do have a site that we communicate known problems or issues, and somewhat keep track of others. As well, help those that are unfamiliar with some problems/issues.

    Have a look: http://www.evta.info/forums/

    FM1

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