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  • Montana1473
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    Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
    You state you were DQ from the .MIL for hearing loss, yet you later state you were separated from the .MIL for adjustment disorder.

    Which was it? How did you get in if you don’t meet medical criteria?
    I apologize for the confusion. I was separated from the military on account of adjustment disorder a couple years ago. I was barred from re-enlistment/ disqualified of re-enlistment because of my hearing loss a couple of months ago. I would need a waiver to re-enlist for both my adjustment disorder as well as my hearing loss. I didn’t receive the waiver for my hearing, which is what prevented me from re-enlisting. The adjustment disorder separation, I found out, is not what barred me from re-enlistment.

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  • CCCSD
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    You state you were DQ from the .MIL for hearing loss, yet you later state you were separated from the .MIL for adjustment disorder.

    Which was it? How did you get in if you don’t meet medical criteria?

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  • fire49
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    Here you go:

    Push the button:



    https://www.tcfp.texas.gov/jobs








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  • fire49
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    Texas has constant openings,

    it is best to have paramedic cert


    Almost every Dept has a different hiring process.

    it is best to check each city web site

    bookmark them

    some will have the minimum required just to apply

    some will let you put in a job interest card, for when they do test.

    The hard part of testing long distance is you have to make three or four trips, just to get through the process and hired.


    Texas
    hit the button:::


    tcfp.texas.gov






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  • Montana1473
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    [QUOTE=fire49;n2109341]Ok have not heard to much about hiring in Montana.

    I am thinking that few openings come up often??

    Not a very populated state.[/QUOTE
    90% of all fire departments in Montana are volunteer departments. Your right, it’s not a big populated state. I assume positions don’t open up as steady as other places, but I’ve seen quite a lot of openings on the west side of the state online. I’ve been told that’s where a lot of the openings will be in the next few years. I agree that there’s probably more opportunities to get hired on out of state, which Ive been doing alittle research on as well.
    Just wondering, but what state are you from? Are you currently hired on at a department?

    What states, in your opinion, is the most understaffed?

    I know I can google this, but what’s the application process like at fire academies? Is it similar to the military?

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  • fire49
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    Ok have not heard to much about hiring in Montana.

    I am thinking that few openings come up often??

    Not a very populated state.

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  • Montana1473
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    Originally posted by fire49 View Post
    Which state are you in????

    I tell people test anywhere and everywhere.
    I appreciate all the input and answering my questions. Thank you. To answer your question, I am from Montana and currently attend the fire science program at Montana State University Billings. Thank you for the hearing qual sheet and the feedback on your other responses.

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  • fire49
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    I have been trying to understand the hearing tests myself, for other reasons. and hard to figure out.


    Like I said test for cities and see what happens, most do not ask about hearing problems.


    Anyway, here is one cities standards::

    Ears and hearing Category A medical conditions shall include the following: 1. Chronic vertigo or impaired balance as demonstrated by the inability to tandem gait walk. 2. On audiometric testing, average hearing loss in the unaided better ear greater than 40 dB at 500 Hz, 1000 Hz, 2000 Hz, and 3000 Hz when the audiometric device is calibrated to ANSI Z24.5. 3. Any ear condition (or hearing impairment) that results in the candidate not being able to safely perform one or more of the essential job tasks of a full duty firefighter. Category B medical conditions shall include the following: 1. Unequal hearing loss. Unequal hearing can result in the inability to localize sounds, leading to failure in the ability tosafely perform search and rescue and other localization tasks. 2. Average uncorrected hearing deficit at the test frequencies 500 Hz, 1000 Hz, 2000 Hz, and 3000 Hz greater than 40 dB in either ear

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  • fire49
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    Which state are you in????

    I tell people test anywhere and everywhere.

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  • fire49
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    I am thinking three years out, no problems, positive goals, in fire school.

    You should be good to go.

    Just have a good, truthful story about the separation. I tell people the military is not for everyone, including me. I did four and got out.

    Anyway as fare as hearing, maybe start testing for depts. Once you get to the medical physical, see what happens as far as passing the hearing test.


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  • Montana1473
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    Originally posted by fire49 View Post
    a few questions

    Have you talked to your instructors about the hearing?
    I haven’t talked to them in detail about my hearing, but they are aware I can’t hear higher frequencies.

    Did the military do the testing? and tell you you have a problem?
    The military did the testing. I seen a specialist. They were the ones who first told me of hearing loss in high frequencies. I have since seen a civilian specialist who said the same thing.

    Do you notice the loss?
    I do not notice the loss. I believe the military was worried about future disability, rather than my current hearing test results. The civilian doctor stated it should not affect voices.

    Have you had private hearing testing done?
    Yes, in I believe 2017.

    For the separation, I am guessing that is stated on your 214?
    My separation of adjustment disorder is listed on my DD214. I recently tried to re-enlist in the national guard. My re-enlistment code says I am eligibld to re-enlist with a waiver, but my waiver was denied.

    What kind of discharge is noted on your 214? honorable? or other,
    The type of discharge is an entry level separation, which means I have less then six months of service under my belt. It is not honorable nor dishonorable. It is a neutral discharge.

    How long has it been since you have been out of the service?
    It has been almost 3 years since the separation.

    Has your life been positive since separation?? not even a traffic ticket?
    I have had zero tickets since the separation. I haven’t even been pulled over. It has been very positive. I did see a counselor once shortly after my separation, but I was not prescribed any medication at any point.

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  • fire49
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    a few questions

    Have you talked to your instructors about the hearing?

    Did the military do the testing? and tell you you have a problem?

    Do you notice the loss?

    Have you had private hearing testing done?

    For the separation, I am guessing that is stated on your 214?

    What kind of discharge is noted on your 214? honorable? or other,


    How long has it been since you have been out of the service?

    Has your life been positive since separation?? not even a traffic ticket?

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  • Montana1473
    started a topic Fire service Eligibility

    Fire service Eligibility

    I am wondering if I am eligible to be an applicant at any fire academies. I couldn’t find a solid answer online so I am here. Currently I am studying firescience in college. I really enjoy it. It is my second year. I’m also taking classes to be an EMT. I will be going to the paramedic program when finished in my fire science program. The issue lies in two problems. I have slight hearing loss. I can’t hear high frequencies, but it was enough to get disqualified from military service. How badly will this affect my chances of getting hired on? The doctor says it’s from exposure to loud noise. I also have a entry level separation from the military, caused by adjustment disorder a few years ago. I have come to terms with this and it honestly, In a strange way, made me a stronger and an all around better person. Both mentally by learning coping techniques and bettering myself, as well as physically by setting goals and being consistent. I also honestly just enjoy helping people. I think I could be a good firefighter. My instructors thinks highly of my abilities. I’ve gotten many references from them. I haven’t mentioned the adjustment disorder to them ever, but depending on these answers I may have a discussion with them moving forward. I know mental health is important in the fire service. I am taking a fire mental health course as we speak to help prepare us for the job. I’d like to know if this is a automatic disqualification for me or is it possible to get hired on or get to the academy somehow? Thanks. If I can’t be a fire fighter , I think I’d like the prevention/education side of things. Sorry if I put this on the wrong forum. I’ve never posted on one.

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