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  • Atlanta802
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    Originally posted by Dirty Axe View Post
    In my department they do what is called "audit the Academy." They show up on particular days of the Academy to learn department-specific things and then also show up on testing day for those skills to show they've learned them. This way they don't have to go through an entire Academy all over, but they become a part of our system and how we do things in our world.
    I totally agree. I myself have been on a department previous to the one I am currently on, and I have to say no two departments are the same, they have their own ways and traditions of doing things. Also what you learn in the book is not always what the Chief or task calls for.

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  • Dirty Axe
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    Originally posted by FyrnResQ View Post
    How do you guys handle experienced, certified volunteers, who have either served as senior firefighters, or even company-level officers, who move into your district and join? I ask because our department has encountered this before.

    Obviously, making them repeat the academy is redundant, though there is something to be said about training with the department to build bonds and teamwork. Do you have a 'fast track' program or other method to accomodate these valuable volunteers without making them feel like complete and total newbies?
    In my department they do what is called "audit the Academy." They show up on particular days of the Academy to learn department-specific things and then also show up on testing day for those skills to show they've learned them. This way they don't have to go through an entire Academy all over, but they become a part of our system and how we do things in our world.

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  • FyrnResQ
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    How do you guys handle experienced, certified volunteers, who have either served as senior firefighters, or even company-level officers, who move into your district and join? I ask because our department has encountered this before.

    Obviously, making them repeat the academy is redundant, though there is something to be said about training with the department to build bonds and teamwork. Do you have a 'fast track' program or other method to accomodate these valuable volunteers without making them feel like complete and total newbies?

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  • BULL321
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    Originally posted by TNFF319 View Post
    WTF? That makes my head hurt. I laughed when I saw " you have the duties." Is that like poopy pants?
    I had not checked on this thread in a day or two and when I read your post I laughed my arse off. I hope Hector has gotten over "the duties" by now or at least has taken some Imodium.

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  • DeputyChiefGonzo
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    Originally posted by larsen2430 View Post
    What I mean is I was on my department for less then a month had my pager about five days and I was called to a grass fire with the only training ever had was a driver course and i was placed on the back or the grass rig with and put up against forty foot seeder trees fully engulfed.
    Some trees, such as lodgepole pines and sequoias need fire to open up their seed pods.. I guess those are "seeder trees"...

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  • larsen2430
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    Originally posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
    seeder trees ? 40 ft - they must grow them big if your seedlings are 40 ft. Oh --- you mean cedar trees - I hope you put the wet stuff on the red stuff. But seriouisly - if you were uncomfortable - why didny you speak up ?
    I am not a country person but right now I live in a country area Sorry on the misspell I didn't even know what kind of trees they were until I was told later and I wasn't uncomfortable the flames didn't bug me. I am just pointing out that it doesn't take 6 months to learn how to do grass fires to me real life hands on is the best way to train you can put someone in a smoke house and tell them how dangerous all you want but if they don't get to try it then their first fire they could leave on you and all that time and money was wasted. My chief lets all people do their job but you can not walk into a burning building unless you have FF1.

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  • slackjawedyokel
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    seeder trees ? 40 ft - they must grow them big if your seedlings are 40 ft. Oh --- you mean cedar trees - I hope you put the wet stuff on the red stuff. But seriouisly - if you were uncomfortable - why didny you speak up ?

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  • rpferry
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    Originally posted by larsen2430 View Post
    What I mean is I was on my department for less then a month had my pager about five days and I was called to a grass fire with the only training ever had was a driver course and i was placed on the back or the grass rig with and put up against forty foot seeder trees fully engulfed.
    Ahhh, ok. That kind of clears it up. Thanks man.
    -Rob

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  • larsen2430
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    Originally posted by rpferry View Post
    Whaaaaaa?? This is the most confusing thread I have ever read.
    -Rob
    What I mean is I was on my department for less then a month had my pager about five days and I was called to a grass fire with the only training ever had was a driver course and i was placed on the back or the grass rig with and put up against forty foot seeder trees fully engulfed.

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  • rpferry
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    Originally posted by larsen2430 View Post
    as far as calls go my first time getting to respond I was in the back of a grass rig thrown up against 40 ft seeder trees and the only training I had at the time was a drives training a week after I started.
    Whaaaaaa?? This is the most confusing thread I have ever read.
    -Rob

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  • larsen2430
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    as far as calls go my first time getting to respond I was in the back of a grass rig thrown up against 40 ft seeder trees and the only training I had at the time was a drives training a week after I started.

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  • TNFF319
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    Originally posted by Hecter View Post
    no its not like that , cause you have the duties , which is different from other people the duty of saving lives which is in itself a hard work . so always be prepared and well prepared can be the answer to this post not this . mind it dude .
    WTF? That makes my head hurt. I laughed when I saw " you have the duties." Is that like poopy pants?

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  • Hecter
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    Originally posted by BULL321 View Post
    It's like watching a Parrot look at itself in the mirror!
    no its not like that , cause you have the duties , which is different from other people the duty of saving lives which is in itself a hard work . so always be prepared and well prepared can be the answer to this post not this . mind it dude .

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  • LaFireEducator
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    Originally posted by hwoods View Post
    LA - And anyone else who may want to chime in - How do you handle a New Applicant who brings Verifiable Training from elsewhere??......... For Instance, if I showed up at your station one day and said that I had moved to the area and had prior experience, and I'd like to join....... Then What?
    For us, it's a case by case basis depending on training. The most likely scenario, with say a FFI certification in hand would be that you would be allowed to run calls as an active participant, but you would still have to demonstrate the skills on the checklist over time.

    We would call your previous department and find out a little more about your experience as well, but we wouldn't keep you from being actively involved in operations nearly as long as a newbie especially if you demonstrated competency, either in training or on runs, early on.

    If you had experience, but no certifications, things would probably move a little slower than if you had certs, but once again, if you demonstrated your skill/knowledge level early on, we would expect the process to move along a little quicker than usual.

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  • hwoods
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    Question............

    LA - And anyone else who may want to chime in - How do you handle a New Applicant who brings Verifiable Training from elsewhere??......... For Instance, if I showed up at your station one day and said that I had moved to the area and had prior experience, and I'd like to join....... Then What?

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