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    Cutting edge interview skills to get that badge from Fire Captain Bob.
    More than 1,993 candidates have received their badge from this program!
    November 10, 2001. Copyright Code 3 Publishing 2001
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    1. Quick Presentation Skills Tip

    2. Entry Level Skills Tip

    3. Promotional Level Skills Tip
    (Entry level should read this too)

    4. New Badges

    5.. Humor

    6. Resource Websites for Candidates

    1. Quick Presentation Skills Tip
    One of the guys I work out at the gym with has a son who has been trying to get a fire job. His dad got Dave my audio/video program. He has all the usual credentials. Firefighter 1, almost a BA, 3 seasons with CDF yada, yada, yada.
    He has been testing for 5 years. His dad asked me to give him a coaching session just prior to his oral for his dream department. Dave told me he had been practicing with a tape recorder. During the coaching session, Dave expressed his burning desire, passion, my life won't be complete until I get a badge compassionate longing, agonizing story.
    One problem. Even after testing for 5 years, he wasn't reading for any oral board. His answers were garbage. This should be no surprise, because most of the candidates who contact us are not ready either. Coaching usually takes about an hour. We ended at 2 hours. His closing was a dog and pony (I wish this candidate would just end and get out of the room) pathetic mess.
    I asked Dave how he expected to get a badge when he hadn't spent the time to be ready for an oral. He said (a big clue here), he thought he was. This is what most candidates think. Does this sound like you? This is also true for promotional candidates. SFFD Captain Bill Long was a rater on a recent promotional board. He said you knew which candidates were really prepared. Those prepared candidates caused you to straighten up in you chair.
    The important point to realize is it doesn't take much to improve your situation and separate yourself from the clone candidates. Dave had a couple of days to review his coaching tape and redial his approach.
    He called me the day after his interview. He sounded like he didn't step on any land mines, wasn't stumped and was able to put it together to make a real good presentation. We shall see what happens.
    Update: There was a message on my recorder. A guy was yelling, Captain Bob, you are the man. It was Dave. He had just received the call that he was going to the chiefs oral. His first in the five years he had been testing. Not only was he going to the chiefs oral. He was number . . . 2! They were interviewing 30 candidates for 10 jobs. How do you like those odds?
    Check out the Entry Level Skills below for more on the chiefs oral and Dave.
    Learn how entry level and promotional candidates are improving their interview scores up to 15 points and nailing that badge! Click here:

    2. Entry Level Skills Tip ===========================================
    Dave and the (Giant Bean Stalk) Chiefs Oral:

    Many candidates start to panic when they are notified that they are going to a chiefs. They think they have to reinvent themselves. Reinvent the wheel. Dave was no exception. When I asked him his game plan, he started on this rant about five things he was adding that would make him different. I said WHOOAA! Do not do this. Understand what got you there. You are only going to the chiefs oral because of the great stuff you already used in the first oral. You are riding the winning pony. Don not switch ponies. You are coming around the club house turn, you shoot out from the back of the pack, go to the whip, you are on the winning pony, you are friends and family are on their feet in the stands cheering you on and you ride her home for the badge.

    When I talked to Dave a second time, he said after talking to several firefighters and friends he was again going to try a different approach. When I asked why, he said because they said you needed to do this and that.
    Too many candidates switch ponies because they said. I've never been able to find out who THEY are. If you do not continue to use the good stuff that got you this far, you could drop out of the race. This is a new arena. Candidates who are going to the chiefs interview, start talking to their friends. They convince that they need to do something more. By the time of the interview, they are a wreck with analysis paralysis. It's not them going into the interview. A clone of someone else. The badges are often given to other candidates. I was able to convince Dave to knock it off.

    The chiefs interview is open to any types of questioning. They are really trying to find out more about you. How you're going to be as a firefighter for the next 25+ years. Do you fit their culture? We like to hire candidates that are themselves on purpose in the interview. Someone who has a personality and conversational. Are you that person in an interview?

    Dave called me the day after his chiefs oral. He said it was not what he expected. After all the preparation, it was anticlimactic. They just want to know him better. A couple of questions like: What is one word people would say about you; and what have you done in the last month to prepare for this job?

    Stan was going to our departments chiefs oral. He made an appointment to come by our station. While there, he asked what more he could do to make it over the top. I told him he was riding the winning pony and not to switch during the home stretch. Three months later I was down at the training center where they were training new recruits. I saw a familiar face. I said, "Stan is that you?" He said, "Yes, I rode that winning pony all the way in!"

    Saddle up and ride to glory. We will be eager to find out how Dave ended up.

    Bottom line getting a badge is all presentation skills!

    Click here for the FREE 101 Inside Secrets How to Get a Badge!

    3. Promotional Level Skills Tip ==========================================
    Fire Problem (Continued)

    Last time we covered having a plan before going to tactics:

    Once given the fire problem, focus all
    your energies on developing a plan. Without a plan, you are out of
    control. What is your plan on this fire problem? By just taking a few
    more moments, you would have a plan. When confronted, candidates that
    went immediately to tactics would regroup and say, my plan is to
    confine and put out the bedroom fire. O.K., but if you
    did not say it, you did not have a plan. You would get dinged.
    Size up, plan, then tactics.

    With your plan, start ordering resources to accomplish water supply, rescue, ventilation, confinement, exposure, utilities, extinguishment and overhaul.

    As soon as possible assign your crew to another company placing yourself in a command position. A candidate told me during private coaching that he would give his portable radio to his crew and take command. He looked puzzled when I asked him how he was going to take command without communications.

    Always have a piece of paper to sketch out the scene. On the upper right of the paper list the resources you order. On the upper left where you assign those resources. If you write everything down you will never lose track of the resources ordered, in route, staging, or assignments given. It helps keep the hot seat cooler.

    Always order more resources then you think you need. It is better to have them staged then to be caught short. The extra manpower can be assigned for the rit team, relief or overhaul. Or, you can send them home.

    When ordering resources do not request particular engines or truck companies. Order by giving greater alarms or, Give me five engines and two trucks, relying on dispatch to fulfill the requests. In your initial resource order call for police units for traffic control, air supply unit, utility company and an ambulance. If you do this right out of the gate, you won’t forget to do it.

    Record the resource identifier on your sheet of paper as the units go in service. You can give the responding units an assignment en route, or request the units contact you on radio when they’re two minutes out. This will give you a heads up for a possible assignment or placement in staging.

    Although you can set the pace for the fire problem, keep it moving. In a coaching session a candidate told me on his last promotional fire problem he would order resources or give a command. Then he would wait several minutes between his next move. He was so wrapped up in the exercise he was doing it in real time. Imagine how the panel responded to a real time simulation.

    Immediately order more resources as you assign incoming units or the fire problem gets larger. Start identifying company officers to place in command of divisions and groups. Once established, assign incoming resources to divisions, fire attack, roof ventilation group, rescue, overhaul, etc.

    The goal here is to delegate and spin off responsibility for these tasks where the officer in command of the task keeps you updated with a report on conditions and needed resources. If radio traffic becomes a problem, or a second incident occurs, have groups or divisions switch to alternate radio frequencies. Or, use runners to communicate. You must communicate whether testing or in actual situations. Good communicators are good leaders.

    Keep a running order of what is going on and where your resources are. At any time, you could be asked for a report on conditions, where a particular unit is, or turn over the incident to a senior officer.

    Even if this is a fire simulation, you are auditioning for the part of a leader and an officer. In a simulation, there could be several people there playing the part of a dispatcher, other company officers and resources available or arriving on the scene. In a real fire, the incident commander will often do a face to face with his sector or division officers. Even though you are in a simulation, play out your part! Request a face to face with a division officer. No matter how corny you think it might be, get on your feet, walk over and do a face to face. Communicate! This is SHOWTIME! Prove to them that you can really do the JOB! How many other candidates will take the risk to make the fire problem that real? This might be the one area where you can separate you and the other candidates from the badge.

    At the end of the exercise be prepared to answer:
    1. What did you see?
    2. What was your plan?
    3. What would you do differently?

    For more on our promotional program click here:

    4. New Badges

    I would like to thank you for the great service that you offer. I have been a full time firefighter for a little over a year but with budget problems and threats to lose my position because of it I decided to try for a more stable position.
    I ordered your tapes and book on conquering the physc exam and got a job offer on my first try! Your web page and email accessibility was also priceless.
    The only downfall of your program was that friends in my department who have been testing for months up and down California are all upset with me because I received a job offer after one try. I guess I can live with that though.
    Thanks again, Casey

    Capt bob. I finally did it. Vegas called Wednesday afternoon for an academy invite Tuesday Oct 2nd at 7: 00 am. It took eleven tests to get to today. The first 4 were without your program. I did not get anywhere. I got this offer because I nailed the Vegas oral. No doubt about it! if I can ever do anything for you, let me know. i will spread the www.eatstress.com word. Jim

    Capt. Bob, Well, I want to start off by saying that with your help, I am finally a firefighter!!!!!!!!! I am in the academy that started last Monday. Kyle

    Capt. Bob,
    I used your tapes and video to help me get the Badge, well it worked I got the Badge at a department in Northern California. Al

    Click here to see how candidates have improved their position in gaining a badge:

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    The Formula
    Here's what we know after 30-years of experience. Candidates
    who get our Audio/Video Entry Level or Promotional Program, use the work booklet, practice with the all-important TAPE RECORDER, and come back for a private coaching session, catapult themselves into the Olympic camp. That's where you get a shot at that badge you have been looking for.
    One on one coaching sessions are where you get dialed into making your best presentation. It can make the difference between being down on a list and being in the top 10 going for the chief's oral. Candidates armed with this information are the one's who are smoking past you in the oral, grab the badge and leave you as the bride's maid again. We know because we get the calls when they get their badge! Click here to check out private coaching http://www.eatstress.com/private%20coaching.htm
    You start by ordering our Entry Level Audio/Video or Promotional Program from the products section of our web site below or by calling our distributor Rayve @ 800-852-4890. This program will keep you motivated! The program comes with a no questions asked full refund if you're not satisfied. You're at no risk except you might get a badge. Consider also getting our new book "Eat Stress For Breakfast" to help you along your journey.
    "Nothing counts 'til you have the badge . . . Nothing! And, there is no feeling like proudly wearing the badge."
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