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    Asking the Panel Questions?

    Candidates have been told by others that you always have to ask a question, if you're given the opportunity at the end of an interview, or you will lose points. Not True in a fire oral! In a regular or corporate interview that might be true. But not here. You never, ever, ever, have a question. We don't expect you to have any questions. I had a guy one day ask, "Since I live so far away, can I start at second step pay to help pay for my gas?" If that question is asked (here's the "Nugget") you can pause as if your gathering your thoughts and then say, "No, I think we covered everything."

    We had another candidate say, "You have probably heard about the charges against me for stealing over at the college?" No, we haven't, why don't you tell us about it. Here was another candidate who have done an outstanding job in his oral and he had to bring this up. His score dropped like a wounded seagull. This is not the time to bring up anything like this. You never bring up a negative item unless the panel does. They probably won't. It they do, have a simple, short (I said simple and short) answer to the situation.

    I served 5 days in Santa Rita Prison for drag racing. Yes, I put it on my application. Because if you don't and they find out, you're gone. In my oral board, I was asked about this. I told the panel, "That since that incident, I had been in the army, married, children, the situation hadn't occurred again, and had been on my job for 9 years. I was a stupid kid then. It's hard to believe this really had happened. One of the captains asked, "Mr. Smith are you trying to get go around this problem and ignore it?" Here's the "Nugget" answer; I said, "No. If I was trying to do that I would have never put it done on the application." He was done with that question.

    When I got my results for that Hayward, CA test, the number placement wasn't on the notice. When I called, the personnel lady told me, "Well, Mr. Smith, you're number one. Not only are you number one, you're five full points ahead of number two!" It was having a reasonable explanation prepared in advance that becomes your "Nugget" answers that makes the difference.

    That question and the "Nugget" answer probably helped me, not hurt me. It catapulted me past the other candidates at light speed, and did indeed get me my badge!

    . . . Nothing counts ‘til you have the badge. Nothing!

    Check out the FREE "101 Inside Secrets How to Get a Badge" off the job page of our web site.

    How would you like to get ahead of the curve with the cutting edge interview skills to get that badge? Then sign up to receive Fire "Captain Bob's" exclusive information rich FREE e-mail FireZine Newsletter off the job page of the web site www.eatstress.com


    "Captain Bob"

  • #2
    Captain Bob, I've done some testing and applying for other areas as well. When do you start asking "ownership" questions, such as, When do I start school, which station would I run out of, which shift... etc.
    A lot of the "private sector" head hunters recommend questions of this type. Thx, Mike

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    • #3
      Mike:

      Never!

      The head hunters are wrong! This might be OK in coporate america, but not the fire servcie for entry level or lateral testing. It is instant suicide.


      You have no rank or time. You're applying for a snootie nose rookie position. This is a semi-military organization.

      Think about it? You're on a panel and this candidate starts throwing his weight around asking "ownership" questions, such as, When do I start school, which station would I run out of, which shift... etc. This is where the wheels will start coming off your wagon.

      Trust me on this one. I've seen it happen too often while serving on over 175 oral boards. Candidates have been misguided into believing this is what to do because "They" said. I've never been able to find out who "They" are.

      Captian Bob
      www.eatstress.com

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      • #4
        Hold whatcha got...Maybe it was wrong of me, but I did ask questions. Several in fact, but none were about me. They were all about current issues affecting the FD, and I feel they showed that I had done my homework. This was confirmed when I was told that no one did as well in the interview. If you ask the corporate type applicant questions, you'll look like an ***. I think there is a tactful way to show an interest in the dept. That doesn't mean asking if you can have more pay cuz you drive a POS...
        ...if you put the handline in the right spot, you won't have to jump out the window...
        -Andy "Nozzles", SQ18, 9-11-01

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        • #5
          Congradulations on your success. I think you were lucky. The bottom line is did you get a badge?

          The information you provided would normally be used when you are asked "What have you done to prepare for the position".

          You or anyone else can do it anyway you want. I try to steer candidates in a direction that will put them at the closets point between them and a badge.

          "Captain Bob"

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          • #6
            I checked out the website Captain Bob...wish I had seen it prior to several of my tests! Anyway, the advice that nothing matters until you get that badge is a gem. One place I tested all I had left was the pension physical and then I get a letter saying that I was no longer under consideration for employment. May or may not have had anything to do with the inch thick background I had to fill out, they wouldn't tell me. But anyway as far as asking questions goes, I don't have a badge, but I am past the point that asking questions would affect me. But as you say, nothing else matters!!
            ...if you put the handline in the right spot, you won't have to jump out the window...
            -Andy "Nozzles", SQ18, 9-11-01

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