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  • #16
    Here in Indiana the same thing goes, they can't fire you for being late or missing a day while on an emergency call but once at work you stay. Last year they passed a law that you have to get a paper signed by your employer stating you were not an essential employee. If they feel you are an essential employee they don't have to sign. There is a town of about 20,000 people in southwestern Indiana that has several factories and shops that WANT their firefighters to respond to emergencies. They are all volunteer with a paid Chief(this year is the first year the chief was paid).The town realizes their taxes would be higher if they went career. Letting them go during work keeps the taxes low and doesn't hurt the response time. Maybe your employer would understand why they should let you go.
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    • #17
      Here's a different take.... Which one really pays the bills? Don' get me wrong fellas, I love doing what I do. But honestly, we ALL have bills to pay and mouths to feed... How many guys here have a job that will pay them to go on calls? I would bet not too many....
      Giggity - Giggity!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by WMFF12
        Here's a different take.... Which one really pays the bills? Don' get me wrong fellas, I love doing what I do. But honestly, we ALL have bills to pay and mouths to feed... How many guys here have a job that will pay them to go on calls? I would bet not too many....
        The people who volunteer and are self-employed actually LOSE money to go on calls. I dig these types very much.
        When I was growing up, the community that I grew up in had such a strong sense of civic duty that, if you worked in any of the businesses in town, you were expected to join the fire department and leave work if there was a call.
        Ah, the good old days!
        Riding the tailboard...
        CR
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        Remember Bradley Golden (9/25/01)
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        • #19
          Ahh.... I smell what your steppin in there CR.... My employer will pay me out of some special account should I get a call, that's if it should come in before work, and even then there's a limit to it... They are a pretty community oriented company, and I guess they write it off at the end of the year. When I am at work, there's no point in me going, my job covers 8 counties. So I am a ways out....


          Umm..... tailboard? Missed out on that.... I guess I am kind of a pup....
          Giggity - Giggity!

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          • #20
            We used to call the Tailboard the "Beavertail".

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            • #21
              When did they outlaw riding the tailboard?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by AC1503
                We used to call the Tailboard the "Beavertail".
                Dont say that to a trucker....you might get an offer.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BDVFD784
                  When did they outlaw riding the tailboard?
                  1933. Guys riding in the open cab were spitting tobacco and hitting the guys riding the tailboard.
                  CR
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                  Remember Bradley Golden (9/25/01)
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                  • #24
                    My department outlawed riding on the beavertail in the late 70's.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ChiefReason
                      1933. Guys riding in the open cab were spitting tobacco and hitting the guys riding the tailboard.
                      CR
                      I thought it was because the Truck companies were using the Engine guys as speed bumps when they fell off?
                      "If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles."
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                      • #26
                        utfd701, can you show me documentation on the protections in Michigan?

                        I've never had a problem being late to work with a call. I have my wife call my boss and let him know. That's the respect he deserves. He always said "no problem, be safe."

                        As for leaving work I would never do it. First, I work over 15 miles away from my response area. Even IF my pager picked up the signal, which it hasn't because of the distance, I wouldn't go because it would take me a 1/2 hour to show up with traffic. We can't run code untill 3 miles outside of area.
                        Second, that's what mutal aids are for. We've gone on more for other departments than vice versa. Some things are automatic MA no mater what time of day.

                        My advice, stay at work.




                        Originally posted by utfd701
                        Here in MI there is some protection from being late or missing a day. In order to have this protection leaving your job in the middle of the day to answer a call, you must be specifically requested or an 'all call' must be sent out.
                        Reality is, if this becomes an occasional thing your employer will find a way to resolve the issue. This usually takes the form of hiring your replacement.
                        Best bet - talk with your employer, come to a mutually agreeable resolution.
                        Safest bet - turn off your pager

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                        • #27
                          If you are not in a critical position at work, sit down and talk with your boss.

                          Use a little common sense. Tell him, No ask him if it would be all right to respond to confirmed working structure fires, serious extrications or 2nd alarms. Tell him that you won't run out for Dumpster Fires and Garbage calls. Strike up a conversation with him and see where it goes. Act like a professional and see what happens.

                          If he agrees, Thank him AND DON"T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, get back to work as soon as possible.

                          If he starts to let you leave, after a couple of calls have the Chief and Mayor send him a letter of thanks. The thanks and recognition he or she gets may hook you up for a long time.
                          If I'm not here I'm on http://ctfire-ems.com/indexc.php

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