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  • #46
    rescue first, but the engine isnt usually far behind it.
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    • #47
      South Arkansas

      Most VFDs in south arkansas roll squads (Really Overloaded BrushTrucks) Most have 3-6 man cabs, 200-500 gal tanks, 100-500 gpm pumps and carry the tools. But thats it. No medical equipment. My VFD runs 2 squads. But we dont have tools. Are rescue responds out of Pine Bluff with the tools on there Heavy Rescue Unit. With a county of 80,000+ people, There are only 3 depts that have rescue tools. There are 13 that dont. If your lucky when a call for a MVA is paged out,you might get a engine, squad, rescue , and a medic all responding. But most the time its just a medic, maybe a squad or engine.

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      • #48
        here we roll the rescue first and the engine second.

        unless u are at sta 2 and then you roll the engine.

        with it was the same at both sta. but not enough rooom on the trucks

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        • #49
          daytime box (6a-6p mon-fri) its a 2 station response for MVAs. Our town and an other town have a great relationship, and we run on most each others calls. We have it set up where when we get called for an MVA, their company rolls the Rescue, and we roll the engine. Works pretty well, they'll do most the extrication work, we'll assist with stabilization if needed, and we'll take care of Engine work that would be needed. Our rescue truck rolls 2nd due for MVAs. We carry a basic compliment of rescue tools on the rescue (Hurst 32A Spreaders, Sawzall, cribbing, etc.) and our mutual aid companies are better equipped to do extrication. After 6pm and on weekends, basic MVAs are toned single station. If its comes over as an MVA Rescue, its our Station and a mutual aids Heavy Rescue.
          Firefighter, Volunteering since Oct 2001

          CCFA 05-04, best overall class for 2005
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          • #50
            Ryder Station, Rescue 1, Engine 5, brush 2

            Makoti station Pumper 1, Brush 1



            The other department i volunteer for is Rescue, Engine, brush trucks

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            • #51
              We make sure if we have enough man power we roll, Rescue, then Engine, then Tanker, but sometimes we dont have enough man power for all 3 we make sure that the Rescue and the Engine Roll. But on the Interstate all 3 roll no matter what

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              • #52
                Up until yesterday we sent an engine first, medic second and heavy squad third unless it was dispatched as a person trapped then Squad went 2nd.

                Yesterday we put our new rescue engine in service and it carries all our extrication equipment. So now it's rescue engine, medic, engine.

                The main idea has been to get a piece bigger than an ambulance blocking the road A.S.A.P. If we are short staffed, we have private ambulances and county ALS units for transport.

                Also, Monday-Friday 0600-1630 we get an additional engine from a neighboring department on auto aid for all MVAs.
                "The quality of a person's life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor." - Vince Lombardi

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by ameryfd
                  Just a curiosity question.... do you find a potential for time to be lost if the PD is several minutes out from the scene and doesn't realize they need extrication until he/she arrives?

                  We are a volly dept. Our SOP is always Engine and Heavy Rescue to all MVA's. Engine rolls first followed by Rescue. Fortunately, I think because our volunteers get paid, we have never had a staffing issue so our response numbers are always more than adequete and the rescue is in route usually less than 1-2 minutes of the engine. Seems to work well for us cuz the engine crew will size up scene and plan any strategy so when the rescue arrives 1-2 minutes later we already are set with a plan and know ahead of arrival exactly what needs to be done.
                  Another reason why the fire department needs to be at every car accident is to block a lane of traffic is needed to protect the ambulance crew and the victims, if a car hits another car or an ambulance its probolly going to move the car but if it hits a engine or a rescue or a tanker, there not going to move

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                  • #54
                    Wow Bones...3-4 People on an ambulance? We only run 2 around here in central Indiana, once in a while with our volley service. If it is a critical run...2 in the back with one driver, and call for a medic intercept

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                    • #55
                      maverick1221, majority of all the calls there is 3. Not too common to run with only 2 on the rig. 2 is allowed, just doesn't happen too often. For MVA's, where it's assumed more manpower will be needed, they usually have 3 or 4 in each rig. The first ambulance out for MVA's has 2 stretchers and if needed, can hold 3 or 4 patients on backboards. It replaced a rig that could take 5 on backboards. (none of this is recommended if ALS is needed).

                      Also note, extrication here is handled by EMS, not the FD....(for now)...
                      "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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                      • #56
                        We dont handle that many MVA's around here, but when we get toned to one. Command rolls first(it does on every call period). Rescue is the first to leave after command with 3 personel. Fallowed by our engine with 6 personel. We have a second pumper on stand-by depending on what the scene looks like when command and rescue arrive and do size up.

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                        • #57
                          We run a "Squad" (a light rescue with a pump and tank) generally with 2 or 3 folks, then an engine and a second engine if the incident warrants one. We do not perform extrication, but were recently awarded a Cedap award for a set of tools to begin a program. Most likely, they will go on the Squad so they can size up, report and set up. The engine will be there by then so they can perform the necessary tasks.
                          Glenn Rainey
                          Colington Fire Department
                          Dare County, North Carolina
                          The Outer Banks

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Capt790
                            Up until yesterday we sent an engine first, medic second and heavy squad third unless it was dispatched as a person trapped then Squad went 2nd.

                            Yesterday we put our new rescue engine in service and it carries all our extrication equipment. So now it's rescue engine, medic, engine.

                            The main idea has been to get a piece bigger than an ambulance blocking the road A.S.A.P. If we are short staffed, we have private ambulances and county ALS units for transport.

                            Also, Monday-Friday 0600-1630 we get an additional engine from a neighboring department on auto aid for all MVAs.
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                            • #59
                              First out in West Branch, Iowa is our rescue. We roll the engine next, and 99% of the time it is out the doors immediately after rescue.
                              I have been on for 10 years, and we frequently use jaws/cutters, saws, etc. for extrication, but only 1 of every 40 or 50 MVAs involve fire.
                              Some depts probably stock their engine with sufficient equipment. We do have a second set of jaws on the engine.
                              Most of our crashes are on I-80, so we need a heavy response anyway.

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                              • #60
                                We don't have a rescue rig yet. We're supposed to get one late next year. So right now we run our main engine and our medical unit. When we get the heavy rescue we'll run it first.

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