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    Well, it happened again last night. While going to the station at 2215 last night, I happened on the slowest driver in the world. Please bear in mind that I was driving responsible on the way to the station. 55 in a 55. This gentleman was lucky to be doing 40 mph. I followed him all the way to the station. I only have about 5 miles to the station. After much thought, and other drivers in the same situation, I have decided to put lights and a siren in my truck. Now, I don't want to load the truck with lights, but I would like some strobes and a dash laser or something comperable.

    Here is my question for anyone that has lights on you POV. What do you have/how hard is it to install/where did you get them/how much $$$. You know the standard questions!

    I have a 93 Ford Ranger to put this stuff on. I was already advised by the wife, "NO BIG LIGHTBAR"......

  • #2
    Oh no.
    Sigh.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    • #3
      Man, this CANNOT be happening!

      Webteam, I am sorry if I ever doubted your infinite wisdom, you are truly the master of all electronic message boards (Even better than the Coveted www.thewatchdesk.com.) The Webteam truly makes my online experience fulfilling, better than beer or sex....All Hail the Webteam, the Gods of HTML and Cookies (Not Oreos) and all things WWW.anything.com! I love the Webteam, I would clean the dust from their keyboards!

      Now that I have finished my little Arse Kissing session for the day.....Please, Mr. Webteam (And I know who some of you are...LOL)


      DELETE THIS @#$%^&^%$#ING THRED, PLEASE!
      Proud Right-Wing Extremist since 1992

      "Extreme Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"- Michael Savage

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      • #4
        Jeffery, you probably will have more luck in the explorer/jr forum than this one. Belive me, it has been discused more than 1,000,000 times.
        No longer an explorer, but I didn't wanna lose my posts.

        IACOJ 2003

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        • #5
          Here we go again...

          Originally posted by TillerMan25
          Man, this CANNOT be happening!

          Webteam, I am sorry if I ever doubted your infinite wisdom, you are truly the master of all electronic message boards (Even better than the Coveted www.thewatchdesk.com.) The Webteam truly makes my online experience fulfilling, better than beer or sex....All Hail the Webteam, the Gods of HTML and Cookies (Not Oreos) and all things WWW.anything.com! I love the Webteam, I would clean the dust from their keyboards!

          Now that I have finished my little Arse Kissing session for the day.....Please, Mr. Webteam (And I know who some of you are...LOL)


          DELETE THIS @#$%^&^%$#ING THRED, PLEASE!
          While I agree with TillerMan's sentiments, I'll try to be a mite more diplomatic:

          jeffery611: It might be wise to check on the search function and search for posts with subjects like: 'Warning Lights on/in/around POVs', 'Whacker', 'Deathray 2000', etc.. (sorry, needed a laugh )

          Seriously, I think that we tend to jump on people posting questions, and especially new members because we've discussed these things a thousand times before. In the course of your search, I'm sure that you'll find a multitude of posts relating to the different kinds of warning lights and their pros & cons. Good luck!

          Cheers,
          Devil

          p.s. And 985s right about the Explorer/JR forum-- they tend to talk about the same things (lights included) over and over. Definately a good place to start!
          Once again....the above views are my own and not that of my department. (And probably should not be construed as having any real meaning, whatsoever!)

          IACOJ

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          • #6
            SIGH........

            Vollie turns, walks away shaking his head and mumbling "not this again.

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            • #7
              Office pool:

              Which argument will result in the lockdown of this thread?

              1. blue vs. red
              2. strobe vs. halogen vs. LED
              3. wigwags or no wigwags
              4. lights make you drive better or they make you drive like an idiot
              5. You can't put too many lights on a car
              6. Tell your wife to take a hike...it's your truck dammit
              7. My state allows lights vs. mine doesn't
              8. explorers are children and shouldn't have lights
              9. paid vs. volly (doesn't it always come back to this anyway?)
              10. drinking beer while driving your POV w/ lights and a siren
              11. anti war people with lights

              Place your bets now people
              PROUD, HONORED AND HUMBLED RECIPIENT OF THE PURPLE HYDRANT AWARD - 10/2007.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
                Office pool:

                Which argument will result in the lockdown of this thread?

                1. blue vs. red
                2. strobe vs. halogen vs. LED
                3. wigwags or no wigwags
                4. lights make you drive better or they make you drive like an idiot
                5. You can't put too many lights on a car
                6. Tell your wife to take a hike...it's your truck dammit
                7. My state allows lights vs. mine doesn't
                8. explorers are children and shouldn't have lights
                9. paid vs. volly (doesn't it always come back to this anyway?)
                10. drinking beer while driving your POV w/ lights and a siren
                11. anti war people with lights

                Place your bets now people
                12. fog vs. smoothbore
                13. drinking beer at the firehouse?

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                • #9
                  LOL
                  No longer an explorer, but I didn't wanna lose my posts.

                  IACOJ 2003

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
                    Office pool:

                    Which argument will result in the lockdown of this thread?

                    1. blue vs. red
                    2. strobe vs. halogen vs. LED
                    3. wigwags or no wigwags
                    4. lights make you drive better or they make you drive like an idiot
                    5. You can't put too many lights on a car
                    6. Tell your wife to take a hike...it's your truck dammit
                    7. My state allows lights vs. mine doesn't
                    8. explorers are children and shouldn't have lights
                    9. paid vs. volly (doesn't it always come back to this anyway?)
                    10. drinking beer while driving your POV w/ lights and a siren
                    11. anti war people with lights

                    Place your bets now people
                    i would have to go with yes

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                    • #11
                      I really hate to say this becuase I too was once ignorant of threads of this nature...but...this subject has been beaten to death many times.

                      With that being said, please read this...my post about warning systems on POVs which was started 5-1-2003 at 1847 hrs.
                      http://cms.firehouse.com/forums2/sho...threadid=48503

                      If you would like to know the difficulty of installing these lights, please email me and I will give you the details.

                      By the way this is my 100th post, thus pushing me into the senior membor status.
                      TO/EMT CVFD (1219)
                      EMT GEMS
                      CPT/EMT MVFD
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                      • #12
                        www.galls.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mryan1
                          www.galls.com
                          1. Sure, if you want to get ripped off.

                          2. Why do people insist on defibrulatiing these threads and then post something equally as pointless as the begining of the thread?
                          Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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                          • #14
                            Jeffrey...

                            I have one question for you...If it was unsafe to pass this driver for 5 MILES because of traffic do you honestly believe that your red light, or blue, or whatever color is applicable and a siren would have made that situation any better?

                            As hard as this is to stomach there are just going to be times when you are not going to make that first or second truck out. And to be honest perhaps the safety of those on the road should over rule your need for a quicker response.

                            Are warning lights and sirens in POV's inherently bad? Absolutely not. But the attitude that they will always make a difference is counterproductive and simply dangerous. I believe there are many FF's capable of safe use of warning lights on their POV's. But I also believe that all it takes is one knucklehead to fly threw town at 65 plus miles an hour to be first on the engine to sour the publics opinion of the FD.

                            On my career FD when we enter the interstate highway we shut off our warning lights and siren while moving through traffic until we near the scene of the incident. It has been proven that even in our big yellow fire trucks running warning lights in those situations most times just made it worse. Of course we respond in following all traffic laws then.

                            If you decide to do this realize that there is a massive reponsibilty to bear when running warning lights and a siren. It is not a license to do whatever is necessary to get there fast. And in fact I would check with your personal auto insurance company to see what if any effect it may have on your insurance.

                            By the way, the volly FD I run with banned warning lights in POV's around 10 years ago. The only person authorized to have warning devices in their POV is the Chief and up to and including me even the chief's haven't had them.

                            FyredUp
                            Crazy, but that's how it goes
                            Millions of people living as foes
                            Maybe it's not too late
                            To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                            • #15
                              Jeffrey
                              Don't worry about what a bunch of old whackers, probies, explorers, or wannabes have to say about this subject. The only dumb question is one not asked and in this profession that can mean life or death. Fyredup gave you some good advice read it and consider what he said. Personally I run lights and siren on my POV. Yes, some of you will call me a whacker, so what?? I am usually on the outer fringes of an incident and am the one who high speed drivers come into contact with first. Now do I use these lights when responding? Sometimes, mostly I don't. Why? Most of the time I can get there just as fast without them. Besides I hate it when people first see you in the rearview mirror and they panic and slam on the brakes. Remember the first thing they teach you in fire school or EMS school, look out for number1. When you attach those lights and a siren to your POV you are entering a whole new zone. When you activate those items your foot is going to get a little heavier, you are going to cuss at drivers who still won't pull over and your stress level will go up. Better to get there a little later and alive then not at all.
                              The decision is yours.
                              SAEPE EXPERTUS, SEMPER FIDELIS, FRATRES AETERNI
                              "Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever"

                              Once a Marine, Always a Marine

                              I got the best of both worlds- Firefighter and Marine

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