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  • #16
    We (everyone in the fire service from the three call a year vollie to the 22,000 EMS run a year pros) need to band together to educate ourselves, the public, and our tax authority on the issues at hand. We cant do this with stories of arson, DUI/DWI, finger pointing, fist fights, and all the other stupid crap we pull....
    Well said!

    Some events put us so high up in the publics mind then all it takes is one stupid incident and we're way back down the bottom again...
    Luke

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    • #17
      FYI--For your reading enjoyment

      This article was posted in the "Firefighter's Forum" on the Wyoming Tragedy. Thought it added weight to my argument that this is not a volunteer problem....but it is a global problem!
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      PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) - Fire Chief James Rattigan on Wednesday
      was suspended for one week without pay, after acknowledging that an
      alleged altercation with police officers was "unbecoming of a
      person of his rank," Mayor David Cicilline said.
      According to a police report, Rattigan threatened officers from
      North Providence and used foul language while he was being detained
      during an April 25 incident, the mayor said.
      The officers handcuffed and detained Rattigan because he was
      apparently intoxicated, but the fire chief was not arrested or
      charged, The Providence Journal reported. In a statement issued Wednesday, Rattigan said he had consumed a few beers and was walking toward his house when he was confronted by two uniformed officers who were responding to a report of inappropriate public behavior.
      "I was insulted and outraged by the mere suggestion that I had
      engaged in such behavior," Rattigan said. "Unfortunately, I was
      overtaken by my emotions and answered the police officers'
      inquiries in an unprofessional and rude manner." Rattigan also apologized in the statement. Cicilline said Rattigan understood that "if there's an incident or this kind of behavior in the future that he will not retain his position. Period." The reprimand is the latest in a string of disciplinary actions by Cicilline, who ran on a ticket of cleaning up a city left tainted by former Mayor Vincent "Buddy" Cianci Jr., now serving a five-year, four-month prison sentence for racketeering conspiracy. Asked if he believed Rattigan's penalty was too light, Cicilline said Rattigan's "contrition to me and to the officers, and his
      acknowledgment of his wrongdoing and the suspension of one week
      without pay, is an appropriate remedy." Rattigan makes $104,683 annually, according to the city's personnel department. He was appointed by Cianci in 1995. In March 2000, Rattigan was charged with drunken driving after he crashed a city-owned Crown Victoria. The Journal reports the charge was later dismissed, but Rattigan had declined to take a breath test. He was suspended for two months.

      (Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
      Last edited by captstanm1; 06-12-2003, 06:45 AM.
      09-11 .. 343 "All Gave Some..Some Gave ALL" God Bless..R.I.P.
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      The comments, opinions, and positions expressed here are mine. They are expressed respectfully, in the spirit of safety and progress. They do not reflect the opinions or positions of my employer or my department.

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      • #18
        Alcohol and who?

        You know; I don't care anymore where the alcohol is. In the station, in the car or at your local bar. IT'S WHAT'S IN YOUR SYSTEM AT THE TIME OF THE CALL THAT MATTERS!
        Every department is going to have to decide for themselves whether or not they want the stigma-that "black eye"-to continue. Every department will have to decide if they want to risk it all for the right to carry on a tradition of keeping beer at the station. Every department will have to deal with the PR of seeing their firefighters walking in, then staggering out of a bar, proudly displaying their department's colors as they do.
        Where we had an "understanding", we are now going to have written policy. And we are going to have another policy to address drivers' licenses. Each member must take responsibility in either case.
        The age old question comes up: do we have to legislate common sense?
        YES!
        The public is waiting for an answer. What are you going to do; take your beer and go home?
        CR
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