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    Hello, new member here. I have a question to ask, it may be more of an opinion than standard. I?ve been a very active volley in my department for a little over 2 years. I have completed FF1 which is required of me. On my own leisure and liberty, I have taken and passed Engine Ops and FF2. I?m currently enrolled to take intro to fire Officer this October. My question is when is it the right time to step up and take the role of a 2nd LT? I?m being pushed in that direction but I am unsure if I?m ready to take that step so soon. The reason I?m being pushed is because I believe it?a more of a they don?t want to do it and not it?s my time. I?m very handy, have common sense, pretty smart and like I said I?m very active in my department. So what say you? Thanks in advance

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    If you are truly uncomfortable doing it, don't do it. If you are just concerned but not entirely uncomfortable it might make sense. Talk to someone you really trust and respect. Ask for honesty.
    What exactly are the responsibilities of a 2nd Lt?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by captnjak View Post
      If you are truly uncomfortable doing it, don't do it. If you are just concerned but not entirely uncomfortable it might make sense. Talk to someone you really trust and respect. Ask for honesty.
      What exactly are the responsibilities of a 2nd Lt?
      As far as I know, just kitchen detail for meetings, have duty nights from 10pm-4am, and possibly organizing events. There?s also the fact that I may be IC until a senior guy arrives. I was advised to wait at least 5 years before accepting the role and I agree with him. I?d have no problem doing the duty but my biggest fear is I?ll end up hating the position and hate responding on calls

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      • #4
        I'll second Cap's comment. I naively took on chief way too early - it did me not good.

        I've held the post several other times - in part, I guess, because people trust me, and in part because people don't want the job. Be glad you can start with 2nd Lt in a few years when you're ready.
        Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

        Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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        • #5
          It's a 2nd Lt..... it's not rocket science. Have you been an acting officer already? IE, been the senior man on the truck? That's pretty much what it is. Your in charge of a truck, and your crew.

          Above you there is 1st Lt, Captain, AC/BC/DC, and then Chief. So it's not like it all falls on you, as there will be other officers to help guide you.

          Have you ever been first due to a structure fire? do you feel confident in directing your crew?

          If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!

          FF/EMT/DBP

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          • #6
            I have not been first due to a structure fire nor ?played? officer. I do believe I?ll be fine and I understand what is going on around me. I?m in construction so I have a vast knowledge of buildings and such. I?ve been told the 2 years I?ve been in, everyone likes me, everyone speaks highly of me and people look up to me. I was nominated for the position last week. I did not turn it down. I think with proper guidance, I?ll be ok. Hoping for the best

            i think my biggest ?fear? is directing those sitting behind me who have more experience/those who have trained me that I?ll have to give them orders

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TurtleVolley View Post
              I have not been first due to a structure fire nor ?played? officer. I do believe I?ll be fine and I understand what is going on around me. I?m in construction so I have a vast knowledge of buildings and such. I?ve been told the 2 years I?ve been in, everyone likes me, everyone speaks highly of me and people look up to me. I was nominated for the position last week. I did not turn it down. I think with proper guidance, I?ll be ok. Hoping for the best

              i think my biggest ?fear? is directing those sitting behind me who have more experience/those who have trained me that I?ll have to give them orders
              If those people sitting behind you have GOOD knowledge and are trustworthy, LISTEN to them. That's what any good 1ST Lieutenant in the military does, they listen to that crusty old Platoon Sgt. or Gunny, and pick their brains for knowledge.
              The best leaders use the knowledge of those that follow them.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by johnsb View Post

                If those people sitting behind you have GOOD knowledge and are trustworthy, LISTEN to them. That's what any good 1ST Lieutenant in the military does, they listen to that crusty old Platoon Sgt. or Gunny, and pick their brains for knowledge.
                The best leaders use the knowledge of those that follow them.
                And don't wait until you're pulling in on that worker to do so - work with them at the station, at fund-raisers, etc. You'll start to see their strengths and weaknesses, and they'll see yours.

                And find a mentor - someone who is respected, knowledgeable, and willing to share what he/she knows with you.
                Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

                Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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                • #9
                  Appreciate the info. I have several mentors and always listening. I was elected for the position and will try my best to be a great leader. Everyday is a new day and new knowledge is gained each day. Thank you all for the advice

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                  • #10
                    one of the hardest things an officer does is transition from peer to supervisor... especially when those peers remember what you were like before you became a supervisor. Even in the volunteer world, it takes some adjustments, because people won't always see you as an officer, until you are comfortable in that role, and have acted with confidence in that role.

                    As I said before, your a 2nd Lt; you have plenty of senior officers to assist you. There will be a learning curve, and a bunch of paperwork, but it's very doable. Just remember, your now responsible for your crew, and giving them directions on what to do, not simply doing the work yourself. But if you are short staffed, you are expected to both supervisor and give direction and do work too.

                    Congrats Lt, you'll do fine.
                    If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!

                    FF/EMT/DBP

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