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    I recently donned my PPE for the first time and miserably failed at getting the 60 second mark.

    Any tips to put it on faster or techniques?
    “The more you sweat in practice the less you bleed in battle"

  • #2
    Wow...


    Practice.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LVFD301 View Post
      Wow...


      Practice.
      I’m well aware of the practice part, I’m asking because I manage to get stuck on certains. I’m asking this to see if there’s any different order I can put it on that would save time and make it easier.
      “The more you sweat in practice the less you bleed in battle"

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      • #4
        Practice...

        A lot!
        HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

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        • #5
          1) Bunker pants
          2) hood, leave it up on your head
          3) Coat
          4) Gut belt
          5) SCBA
          6) Helmet
          7) Gloves


          Repetition, repitition, repitition. Work on smoothness and getting it on right FIRST. Then work on getting faster.
          Crazy, but that's how it goes
          Millions of people living as foes
          Maybe it's not too late
          To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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          • #6
            Working faster does not always translate to being quick.

            Everyone is different as to their own style. Watch others and find your groove. As Fyred suggests, learn to do it correct, then work on your speed.

            Try laying your helmet and gloves out in front of you to the sides of your coat. This is quicker than pulling them out of your pockets.

            I teach my guys to pull their hood over their head, then down around their neck. The hard part will be when you pull it back up to cover your mask. So placement is important. Some try to pull the bottom and miss the face opening altogether, so you must get used to this as well. Every second counts.

            The quickest I have ever seen anyone put on PPE With SCBA and taking the first breath is 38 seconds; Skinny guy about 28 years old. His method was flawless and smooth (Fyred's word). He usually won the bunker-up contest whenever he competed, for years. His average was around 55 seconds but he could certainly turn it up when he chose.

            Practice...
            HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PaladinKnight View Post
              Working faster does not always translate to being quick.

              Everyone is different as to their own style. Watch others and find your groove. As Fyred suggests, learn to do it correct, then work on your speed.

              Try laying your helmet and gloves out in front of you to the sides of your coat. This is quicker than pulling them out of your pockets.

              I teach my guys to pull their hood over their head, then down around their neck. The hard part will be when you pull it back up to cover your mask. So placement is important. Some try to pull the bottom and miss the face opening altogether, so you must get used to this as well. Every second counts.

              The quickest I have ever seen anyone put on PPE With SCBA and taking the first breath is 38 seconds; Skinny guy about 28 years old. His method was flawless and smooth (Fyred's word). He usually won the bunker-up contest whenever he competed, for years. His average was around 55 seconds but he could certainly turn it up when he chose.

              Practice...
              Thanks man this really helped.

              PS. Have Gun Will Travel is one of my favorite shows.
              “The more you sweat in practice the less you bleed in battle"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JasonAre View Post
                Thanks man this really helped.

                PS. Have Gun Will Travel is one of my favorite shows.
                Same here...

                My dad's favorite as well. Richard Boone was family, so it was somewhat special. My dad began to call me Paladin and it stuck.
                HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

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                • #9
                  The more you do this, the better you will be. Kind of like riding a bicycle, once your learn that trait, every thing afterwards is nothing!

                  Same thing goes for be married as well!
                  Stay Safe and Well Out There....

                  Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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                  • #10
                    Practice. Practice. Practice.
                    "Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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                    The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

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                    • #11
                      I know youtube has vids of guys donning their gear for time (must have been a slow day at the house). Maybe it would help to watch how they do it and then figure out your own technique. But after that practice, practice, practice like mentioned by those before me.

                      I remember doing this years ago for our academy and starting out at around 65 secs, and after 2 hrs of solid practicing with another recruit I had it down to a consistant 45.

                      Good luck.
                      Nothing is as unimpressive as someone who is unwilling to learn.

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                      • #12
                        Lay out all your gear the same way every time so you know automatically where everything is and don't have to look for it. Practice getting all the motions down smoothly and consistently until you start to build muscle memory and it becomes automatic. Finally, if you are going to be timed for qualification, borrow some gloves that are a size or two larger than your regular ones. I've seen quite a few guys nail most of the donning then get hung up for 15 or 20 seconds struggling to get their gloves on. It's a little bit of a cheat, I guess, but it helps.
                        Chief Dwayne LeBlanc
                        Paincourtville Volunteer Fire Department
                        Paincourtville, LA

                        "I have a dream. It's not a big dream, it's just a little dream. My dream — and I hope you don't find this too crazy — is that I would like the people of this community to feel that if, God forbid, there were a fire, calling the fire department would actually be a wise thing to do. You can't have people, if their houses are burning down, saying, 'Whatever you do, don't call the fire department!' That would be bad."
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                        • #13
                          Put crisco on your arms and legs.
                          I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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                          • #14
                            Get a rythm down, even if it is slow, commit it to muscle memory. Then work on speed. You will get it down eventually. From when I started to know I have probably dropped 20 seconds. I could probably sing a song and don gear its gotten that rythmic

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                            • #15
                              I'll try to cut some time out for you. My advice is RELAX when donning. Don't lolligag, but do relax. When you're trying to fiddle with everything at the speed of light, your motions are erratic, jerky, and hard to control. Erratic, jerky motions can make a task as simple as buckling your helmet chinstrap take what seems like ages. When you're relaxed you can execute each motion successfully the first time and not get yourself ****ed off when you can't seem to perform a simple movement.

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