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  • #16
    All volunteer hall with approximately 200 calls a year. We follow a 60/40 rule: Sixty percent of training (2 training sessions per month), and forty percent of calls. Someone working a five day a week job should have no difficulty meeting this requirement. That being said, they have only recently begun enforcing this standard and then only in the most extreem of circumstances, ie an individual has not bothered to attend a call in over four months.

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    • #17
      i appreciate all the input from everyone and now its time to to some thinking on a ways to format some of these methods to fit our situation... thank you all

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      • #18
        Voyager - Just wondering if you could give a quick overview of how your duty system works. Is there set crews for nights or open? How many members do you have and actually participate?, etc.

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        • #19
          yea, we're pretty strict at my department. To become active you obviously have to be checked off on all trucks and complete driver training (And hold/maintain certs.). In addition to this, you have to hold an annual 60% activity -- the percentage comes from all meetings, training, and dept. events we host. If this is not met, then the individual loses rights (ex. voting in meetings, holding any sort of an officers position, etc.) If there is a constant issue (multiple years of low percentages), then the individual can be brought up on charges to consider them and active member -- drop them to probation or drop them from the dept. To be honest I don't think the dept. head would really throw you off if you only hold 55%, but to hold privileges, people need to realize you need to participate.

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          • #20
            Ours is 30% of all calls(yearly average around 500) and all practices, only have 2 a month.

            Now for us who work out of the area we asked for some accomodation because if you have 3 runs between 6-4 and we're out of town then we would get a 0. However if you do a percentage between 6 amto 6 pm and then 6pm to 6 am you'd see different numbers. My % from am to pm is around 15%. However, my pm to am is around 70%.

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            • #21
              J.Feight,

              Here are some questions you might want to ask before implementing this system:
              1. Is there a departmentj-wide problem of not enough people responding to calls or conducting training, or is it a problem with just a few individuals that aren't carrying their weight? If it isn't really that widespread an issue, there isn't a reason to devise a complicated system to try to solve the problem.

              2. Have you run the statistics to see what your current status is? This would help you answer #1 and would be the immediate question on everyone's mind when you propose some sort of minimum participation rule.

              3. Are you preprared to keep up with the paperwork necessary to run some sort of system like this? This may be a lot more trouble than you think.

              4. Are there other ways that lack of participation in training and/or responses could be addressed? If you are in a situation where you need all hands on deck every time, perhaps the solution is to work on recruiting more hands rather than trying to squeeze more time out of the ones you've got.

              5. Are you ready to carry out the threat of kicking people out who don't meet the minimumsy? Are you ready to kick out the mayors son or your brother-in-law? Backlash can follow.

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