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  • 27 year old personal trainer, looking to become firefighter

    Hey all,

    so yea I'm 27, soon to be 28. Kinda job hopped after college, took the LSAT and completed the rest of my law school application, but wasn't happy with the strength of it so i put that on the back burner. Fell into a safe bet hospital administration job that made me miserable for close to 3 years before quitting and going into personal training full time, which is something I had done sort of informally for a while before that. I had always kicked around the idea of becoming a firefighter, not not too seriously until recently unfortunately...anyways this personal training gig isn't a longterm move for me; more transitional than anything. so here go some questions:

    where do i begin?
    is it too late for me to begin?
    i'm from nyc, and would love to make a move to cali or colorado. is there a way to get the ball rolling from out of state?
    I don't have any kind of EMT cert. does that preclude me from starting the process?

    i'd appreciate any and all input.

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    Thanks for the reply. Im in ny just north of the city

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    • #3
      You're definitely not starting too late. I was about that age when I started applying. I got hired by a major metropolitan FD on the east coast, worked there for a few years, and later switched jobs to move closer to home, with a major metropolitan FD in the Midwest. By that time I was in my 30s.

      I would strongly encourage you to look out of state. These processes are so competitive, so more applications increase your chances. Also, your immediate area is tough. FDNY age caps at 28. New Jersey gives a statewide exam that only state residents can take. Massachusetts gives a statewide exam that's open to non-residents, but if you're not a) a resident or b) a veteran it is essentially impossible to get hired.

      If you wanna stay on the east coast, most of the big departments in PA, MD and VA give tests that are open to non-residents, and you do not need any certifications (except Pittsburgh, they only allow city residents to test). Look on the city and county websites to see when they're testing. And stay on the ball. Most only test once every 2 or 3 years, and the application window may only be open for a few weeks.

      I'm not as familiar with Colorado or the California. I think the big city departments (LA City, LA County, San Francisco, Denver, etc) work like any other major fire department. It's an entry level exam that anyone can take, even without certifications. However, smaller suburban jurisdictions often require certifications to apply, but you'll just have to investigate each department, one by one, to know. Also, check out governmentjobs.com. There's a fair number of hiring notices on there.

      Good luck


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      • #4
        Originally posted by jes82 View Post
        You're definitely not starting too late. I was about that age when I started applying. I got hired by a major metropolitan FD on the east coast, worked there for a few years, and later switched jobs to move closer to home, with a major metropolitan FD in the Midwest. By that time I was in my 30s.

        I would strongly encourage you to look out of state. These processes are so competitive, so more applications increase your chances. Also, your immediate area is tough. FDNY age caps at 28. New Jersey gives a statewide exam that only state residents can take. Massachusetts gives a statewide exam that's open to non-residents, but if you're not a) a resident or b) a veteran it is essentially impossible to get hired.

        If you wanna stay on the east coast, most of the big departments in PA, MD and VA give tests that are open to non-residents, and you do not need any certifications (except Pittsburgh, they only allow city residents to test). Look on the city and county websites to see when they're testing. And stay on the ball. Most only test once every 2 or 3 years, and the application window may only be open for a few weeks.

        I'm not as familiar with Colorado or the California. I think the big city departments (LA City, LA County, San Francisco, Denver, etc) work like any other major fire department. It's an entry level exam that anyone can take, even without certifications. However, smaller suburban jurisdictions often require certifications to apply, but you'll just have to investigate each department, one by one, to know. Also, check out governmentjobs.com. There's a fair number of hiring notices on there.

        Good luck

        Much appreciated. As per the NTN, Virginia is the closest state hiring. Should I expect this to be the most up to date info? And pretty much all of the listings I saw there say you need an in state drivers license.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by fire5555
          Now if you want to get out of the cold, texas is always hiring

          Get your EMT at least paramedic better,

          Do the quick tx ff cert class and you are in!!



          https://www.tcfp.texas.gov/job_postings/jobs.asp


          The quick class ::



          http://trainingdivision.com/fire/bas...ghter-academy/
          Definitely not opposed to Texas. Another hang up for me is money is a bit tight. Didn?t realize these EMT courses were so expensive!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mattjm1121 View Post

            Much appreciated. As per the NTN, Virginia is the closest state hiring. Should I expect this to be the most up to date info? And pretty much all of the listings I saw there say you need an in state drivers license.
            Yeah, unfortunately there's really no central clearinghouse for info about fire department hiring. So you'll find a lot of lists all over, but none of them are comprehensive. So you kinda have to monitor a lot of pages at once. NTN is a good place to look, but it only lists departments that hire through NTN (and many don't). governmentjobs.com, like I mentioned before. Sometimes people will post info about hiring processes on this forum.

            But for most big cities, the only way to know when the hiring process opens is to monitor that specific city's website. A lot of them have "Job Interest Forms" that you can fill out, and they should email you when they start testing. But of course, it's city government, so nothing is guaranteed. Always a good idea to check it yourself.

            Philly tested in 2013, and again in 2016, so theoretically they should test again sometime in the next year or so. Baltimore County has been hiring a fair bit recently, for both EMTs and FFs (but if you get hired as an EMT you can bridge over to suppression after a few years, so its not a bad gig). Baltimore City and DC both tested in 2015, but they both kept their last list alive for like 6 or 7 years. Also, there's a lot of midsized departments in PA that still run a lot of fire (York, Reading, Allentown, Chester, Erie, also Wilmington DE). Worth looking into.

            As for the in-state license thing, I've never heard of that. Sounds like some crazy Virginia sh*t to me, lol. But seriously, a lot of jurisdictions look for ways to hire local residents. I'm sure that's what the license thing is all about.

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            • #7
              Don't know if this would be the right place to ask, but does anyone know if its possible to lateral from a department like FDNY to any other department?

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              • #8
                @flipvba11er the best and easiest way to get a possible lateral is to ensure you have ProBoard and NREMT-B especially NREMT-P (a.k.a. Paramedic). The higher your EMT training, the better your chances.

                @mattjm1121 The big questions are why do you want to join the FD? what do you hope to get out of it? why haven't you even thought about it sooner? Will you be able to stay with it based on your current employment history (what if you're miserable like you were at the hospital)? This is not something you decide on a whim or easily transfer or move. This is a change of your entire life and how you view the world. I can show you how to get on, but the application process itself isn't easy (FFX can take 3-4 years from application to hiring). And you may get lucky, but some places you might have to apply multiple times to before getting on. I can help, but is this something you truly are ready for?

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                • #9
                  Funny thing, I am a firefighter who got a personal training cert to do on the side as additional income. If you've kept yourself in good shape you can certainly start firefighting now. As far as moving out of state goes, those are more life change questions you have to ask yourself than professional ones. However, checking the life change boxes as well as making sure there are available jobs is definitely a recommendation I'd make.

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