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    I'm a Probie and our LT asked the differnece between a Halligan and a Hulligan (spelling?). I have not been able to find anything to tell me the difference or even what a hullingan is. Can anybody help?

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    Originally posted by agatti20 View Post
    I'm a Probie and our LT asked the differnece between a Halligan and a Hulligan (spelling?). I have not been able to find anything to tell me the difference or even what a hullingan is. Can anybody help?
    did he ask you to fetch him the water hammer as well?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by furlofmalta View Post
      did he ask you to fetch him the water hammer as well?
      Or the left-handed spanners?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by randsc View Post
        Or the left-handed spanners?
        lol good stuff!

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        • #5
          In all seriousness, in my department we refer to the cast-and-machined one-piece tool as a halligan, and the made in three-pieces-and-screwed togetherr tool as a houligan. And honestly, I have no idea why?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by randsc View Post
            Or the left-handed spanners?
            Or a priapism gauge?

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            • #7
              http://www.fire-end.com/Tools.htm

              http://www.firehooksunlimited.net/entry.html

              I hope it was just an open answer question that he doesn't expect a great answer, because they are basically the same.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ehs7554 View Post
                http://www.fire-end.com/Tools.htm

                http://www.firehooksunlimited.net/entry.html

                I hope it was just an open answer question that he doesn't expect a great answer, because they are basically the same.
                Heh, apparently that's what we call them 'cause that's what they ARE called. How 'bout that. I'm always a bit surprised when our local folklore turns out to have a basis in fact.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by agatti20 View Post
                  I'm a Probie and our LT asked the differnece between a Halligan and a Hulligan (spelling?). I have not been able to find anything to tell me the difference or even what a hullingan is. Can anybody help?
                  Wouldn't it have been better to find one of your senior men in house and ask them this question? If you did, hey good on ya. Believe it or not they may look scary and talk tough, but I have not met one senior firefighter who would not stop and explain something if a probie ask's. Might you get a ribbing later? Sure.

                  Halligan bars are forged one peice tools. Hooligan bars are held together with set screws and should be used for nothing more than trophies.
                  Last edited by DocVBFDE14; 02-09-2007, 09:51 PM. Reason: grammer
                  Co 11
                  Virginia Beach FD

                  Amateurs practice until they get it right; professionals practice until they cannot get it wrong. Which one are you?

                  'The fire went out and nobody got hurt' is a poor excuse for a fireground critique.

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                  • #10
                    Doc hit it on the head. Halligan, proven tough one piece construction, Hooligan, held together with set screws, which can be broken. That's the difference. Which would you rather be holding when the s##t hit's the fan and you need it most?
                    Last edited by callaway75; 02-10-2007, 01:03 PM. Reason: m

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                    • #11
                      from the web site.

                      THE PRO-BAR IS THE ONLY HALLIGAN TYPE TOOL USED BY THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. IT IS CARRIED BY EVERY ENGINE, TRUCK AND RESCUE IN THE F.D.N.Y. IT IS ALSO CARRIED BY EVERY UNIT IN EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THE HIGHWAY PATROL.

                      THE SPECIFICATIONS BY NEW YORK FIRE DEPARTMENT IS RIGID CALLING FOR A ONE PIECE DROPPED FORGED HALLIGAN WITH THE PRO-BAR DESIGN. THE PRO-BAR SPECIFICATIONS IS USED BY THE F.D.N.Y. TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. OTHERS HAVE TRIED BUT FAILED. THE PRO-BAR HAS A RECORD OF EXCELLENCE WITHOUT FAILURE FOR 30 YEARS. WHAT OTHER TOOL COULD BOOST THIS RECORD.----

                      BOB FARRELL CAPTAIN E-82-L-31 F.D.N.Y. RETIRED


                      There is your answer right there.

                      FTM-PTB

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                      • #12
                        The Hooligan bars are made by Paratech. They have a thicker fork end, the adze end isn't curved, the shaft it round and not as ergonomic as compared to the hexagonal shaft of a real Halligan. Basically the Hooligan is far inferior to a Halligan bar. As has been said above the Pro Bar is a true Halligan, however, a "Quick Bar" also meets the Halligan specs.

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                        • #13
                          Hope you don't join the department saftball team. They might ask you to fetch the key to the batters box or a bucket of curve balls for them.

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                          • #14
                            Sounds Familiar

                            This sounds a lot like a search for a muffler bearing!

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