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In Recruit Academy - Having Trouble Advancing 1 3/4"

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  • #16
    Since you resigned vs being terminated, will that department give you a second shot?

    If not, good luck to you. I hope you land a spot. You sound like someone I could work with!


    • #17
      captnjak - Yes, the Training Captain and Chief both made clear to me that they would not hold this against me if I make it back into their oral boards at the end of the year. I told them that I had every intention of doing what they asked of me and looked forward to making it through the process again and seeing them in the 2015-1 academy. It's not automatic - I still have to score well enough on the written and oral boards but I already did it once! I'm already a solid EMT and know I have what it takes to be a great firefighter. Now that I know what it takes to make it through academy I just need another shot.

      Thanks again everyone for your thoughts and comments.


      • #18

        No fire instructor want to have a recruit resign mid stream or have any fail any of the test. But this does happen from time to time.

        Now it the time to start beefing up the muscles. Go to a gym or fitness center and get a trainer to help you. Be sure to tell the trainer what your problems was so they can help you build up.

        Having been an instructor at our training center, I've seen young folks having a hard time doing physical portions of the job. I have asked many, "Have you ever done any physical work before?" Most have say some to none. When other recruits were doing the physical part, what were you doing? Were you watching them and how they advance the hose line? You can pick up a lot by watching others and being friends with someone who is getting the task done without any problems. The buddy system works! Most recruits will lend an hand to those who are having a tough time. That is call Brotherhood.

        I don't know what you have available to you, but as I said get to a fitness center and build up the strength. Some volunteer departments will lend you as hand, if you ask and tell them why you need to do this, by letting you drag their hose around, providing you re roll it and put everything back where it came from. You can always build up your strength by using an ax to chop wood or hit an old tire or stump with a sledge hammer. Picking up and shoulder carry of a regular 24 foot ladder would help you as well.

        Good luck.
        Stay Safe and Well Out There....

        Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers


        • #19
          Originally posted by M.D. View Post
          This is my first post here. I'm 4 weeks into a 12 week academy. I had zero experience prior to this academy.

          Last week we did a combat challenge/obstacle course that included paying out 150' of 5", taking a hydrant, masking up/going on air, advancing 1 3/4" line while flowing straight stream for 40', following 150' of hose through a tower while blacked out, raising a 20' straight ladder, search and rescue with dragging a dummy to a door, hoisting a 2 1/2 bundle to the 3rd floor, hooking up our buddy breather, tying a knot of instructor's choice, and answering a basic question about loading priorities.

          I made it through to the end, but was completely out of gas and out of air, and I wasn't able to complete the last 6 feet of the 1 3/4". I know the instructors are concerned about my physical abilities, and I need to figure out how to get on par with my class asap. Mainly, I need to learn how to advance the 1 3/4" now.

          I'm 5'11" and weigh 145 lbs. I'm in my mid 30's and in pretty good shape - spent 3 months prior to academy working on my cardio and strength training.

          Any tips or tricks on advancing the 1 3/4" as well as general stamina etc will be greatly appreciated.
          Hey from someone who has a similar build this is my advice. Im 5'10 and I used to be around 148-150. I started eating right, taking supplements and lifting heavy. Got up to 170 and I can push some heavy *** weight. At 5'11 you should definitely be heavier and stronger. So reevaluate your diet, hit the gym at least 4 times a week, push yourself, and Id invest in Universal Gains Protein Powder. **** works wonders for guys like us. At the end of the day you can have all the technique in the world but if youre getting gassed and cant pull the weight, whats the point? Good luck bro.


          • #20
            Happy to revive this thread with a positive end to the story! Also, a belated thank you to everyone who offered words of encouragement.

            On a sour note, I was blacklisted from the department I resigned from in their future hiring. On the positive side, I did everything I needed to do to fix my problems and was hired by a career department that I couldn't be happier to be a part of. I went through a volunteer FD academy and spent 10 months with that department drilling and pulling shifts. I also worked with a sports dietician and worked really hard at a crossfit gym. I put on 30 pounds of muscle and walked into oral boards with confidence. I was honest with the oral board panel and took ownership of my past failures while telling them about everything I had done to correct it. I was actually hired specifically because one of the guys on the oral board said he wanted me to work in his department because I was a person who owned my mistakes and corrected them.

            So, I'm now almost two years into my career (anniversary date in early January). I went through a great academy, cruised through probation by working my butt off and keeping my mouth shut, and I'm almost done with my apprenticeship program. I've developed a solid reputation in my department as a junior firefighter and I'm looking forward to continue going on this path. This is the best career in the world and I feel unbelievably lucky to have landed in such a good place with such a great department.

            Thanks again. I hope this story can be an inspiration to others to not give up even when it gets hard, and to own your mistakes.

            - M.D.


            • #21
              Congratulations! I believe you both deserved it and earned it. And adding 30 lbs.of muscle is pretty impressive. That original department appears to have made a mistake.


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