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  • #16
    Not to mention the argument of needing them to move the hose is also a joke. Crawling with a pistol grip is a snail's pace compared to moving your *** dragging the line by the nozzle bail. Of course if you are unfortunate enough to have a department that purchases nozzles with plastic parts then you may want to be careful with this technique, but it works so much better.
    Career Firefighter
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    -Professional in Either Role-

    Originally posted by Rescue101
    I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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    • #17
      I've never really encountered a situation where the hose was so hard to move that I wished for a dildo-appendage to ease in it's movement. It's a tool for the lazy to breed **** poor hose handling skills and I hate them.
      ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

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      • #18
        Have the nozzle ahead of your body and this will have you holding the hoseline behind the nob. This gives you room to move the nob around and still gives you protection from the spray coming from it.
        Stay Safe and Well Out There....

        Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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        • #19
          alright, because that's the complete opposite of "Hold the nob like you are in love with it and proceed."
          ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tajm611 View Post
            alright, because that's the complete opposite of "Hold the nob like you are in love with it and proceed."
            No it isn't. Because if I hold the line close to me like I am in love with it, doesn't mean I have the nob in my hands.

            Sometimes you might have it in your hands but not all the times.

            You wouldn't want to hold the line loose and have it control you.
            Stay Safe and Well Out There....

            Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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            • #21
              just saying how i do it.... no matter what psi i use a hose strap or peice of 1 inch webbing attached around the hose. not only does it work taking the pressure off but also assists in dragging the hose thru the house
              We walk where the devil dances... FIR NA TINE

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              • #22
                Originally posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
                No it isn't. Because if I hold the line close to me like I am in love with it, doesn't mean I have the nob in my hands.

                Sometimes you might have it in your hands but not all the times.

                You wouldn't want to hold the line loose and have it control you.
                I'm confused, you said hold the "nob" which I assume is knob as in bell. That would lead me to believe you are holding the bell close and not out in front of you. Even the line is rarely up above my midsection. Holding it that close and that tight is a signal of poor hose control and is something we try to prevent in the academy.
                ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

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                • #23
                  never use the pistol grip, u need to have the nozzle out in front of u, check out these 2 videos..also, never think the backup position isn't as important as the knob man, because it is.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLdAC...eature=related

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kxLu...feature=fvwrel

                  same technique for 1 3/4 line, only itll be a little easier cuz its a smaller hose

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                  • #24
                    Aaron Fields from NWWFools has a great program out, Nozzle forward. It's light years ahead in terms of explanation and demonstration.
                    ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tajm611 View Post
                      Aaron Fields from NWWFools has a great program out, Nozzle forward. It's light years ahead in terms of explanation and demonstration.
                      It is worth looking up and training on.
                      Career Firefighter
                      Volunteer Captain

                      -Professional in Either Role-

                      Originally posted by Rescue101
                      I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GTRider245 View Post
                        It is worth looking up and training on.
                        The Nozzle Forward is hands down the best class I've taken in the fire service. I've participated 5 times now and every time I learn something new. Our department has integrated NF techniques into all our quarterly training this year.

                        If you're interested in taking his class, he will come teach it in your region. He's been in Nebraska, Alaska, and will be going to Texas next month.

                        Check out "Nozzle Forward" on Facebook.

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                        • #27
                          Bale at arm's length, because you need to be able to aim. Tuck the hose to your side under your armpit and lock it in. Your front hand shouldn't have to do anything other than open & close the bale, aim, and change the pattern. Never square off and be on both knees when flowing. You have no base, and will be knocked on your butt. When advancing, your weight is on your front leg, which is outstretched and planted in front of you. Trail leg behind you, knee down. Besides being a strong base, if the floor gives out in front of you, you'll be able to fall backwards and away from the hole.

                          A good back up person will catch up to you, and take all of the weight away from you, so that all you have to do is aim and flow.

                          To be quite frank, if an 1 3/4 whips you, No firefighter should struggle with this line, just like no firefighter should struggle throwing a 24' ladder (I've seen it). I'd get in the gym and work on getting stronger ASAP. You need core stability, which you can get from front squats, planche variations, single arm farmer's carries, etc. You'll also need a strong grip, and leg endurance to hold your position.

                          For car fires, sweeping the eaves or through a window before going interior, or any situation that you would flow from a standing position, you can easily control the line by standing on the line with your back foot. It takes most of the nozzle reaction away.

                          If you feel like the hose is going to get away from you, either gate it down, or fall bacwards on your but onto the line then gate it down. Whatever you do, don't drop the line.

                          Many people don't know this, but there are several different types of hose, which can have different liners, which affect friction loss. Your crosslay may have several different types of 1 3/4" on each line! As such, you may not actually be getting 110psi. It might be 100, or 120 even. Check your station's records to reference what types of hose you have.
                          "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those willing to work and give to those who are not." Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #28
                            If you kept the line low, pinned to your hip with your weight under you, youd see how much easier it is. Not to mention, with your weight infront of you, you have a greater chance of falling down or through a hole in a floor. Pinning the line under the armpit is both ineffective and will tire you out too quickly, regardless of strength and stamina.
                            ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by powerhourcoug View Post
                              The Nozzle Forward is hands down the best class I've taken in the fire service. I've participated 5 times now and every time I learn something new. Our department has integrated NF techniques into all our quarterly training this year.

                              If you're interested in taking his class, he will come teach it in your region. He's been in Nebraska, Alaska, and will be going to Texas next month.

                              Check out "Nozzle Forward" on Facebook.
                              Aaron just got word he'll be features in the upcoming Andy Fredricks training day.
                              ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tajm611 View Post
                                Aaron just got word he'll be features in the upcoming Andy Fredricks training day.
                                That is good news. I am doing my best to make it up there, along with a couple of FOOLS from down this way.
                                Career Firefighter
                                Volunteer Captain

                                -Professional in Either Role-

                                Originally posted by Rescue101
                                I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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