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    Does anyone know when either Madison or Milwaukee WI depts will be hiring? Also, anybody that knows anything about their pay, run statistics, or general information about working for them, could you please let me know? Thanks

    Mack

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    PM me, or e-mail; I work for Milwaukee and would happy to help you with any questions you may have.

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    • #3
      Just checking back again, does anyone know when these two departments will be testing, or at least be open to applications? Also, do you know if they allow ride alongs, and where can I get more information. Thanks for the help.

      Mack

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      • #4
        Dec 11 is when Madison will start taking apps.

        Anyone know anything about Milwaukee?

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        • #5
          Ride along

          Madison FD, is currently reviewing and making some changes to there ride along policies.... currently though you have to have had the blood borne pathogens speal (don't know how long that is, maybe 3 hours and I think you can get them locally at one of the Madison Hospitals, or if your an EMT, you have already had it) and you only can run with the paramedics. I have heard the new policy will include riding with an Engine Co. Call 266-4420 for more info ask about ride alongs!

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          • #6
            Madison won't be taking applications for about another year, but word is out in the street that Milwaukee may be taking applications soon.

            What are people's thoughts on the differences between the Madison and Milwaukee fire departments? Is one harder to get on than the other? I know that they're both good departments, but is one slightly more desirable to work for?
            Until you've been on a Harley-Davidson, you haven't been on a motorcycle

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            • #7
              From what I know they aren't very similar at all. Milwaukee is MUCH larger than Madison. I think there is actually 3 times as many stations. I'm guessing the call volume is different, but it always depends on which fire house that you are in. Milwaukee has more firefighters so they would end up hiring more than Madison. However, there are probably more applicants. A big difference is the pay. I think Milwaukee is about $34k and Madison is around $48k. They are both good fire depts, but they are different. It's just whatever type of style that you prefer. The large city, or medium sized city. I'm sure some of the guys that work at each can give more specific info.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by clark918 View Post
                Dec 11 is when Madison will start taking apps.

                Anyone know anything about Milwaukee?
                Where did you hear that they are taking apps.

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                • #9
                  Sparky,
                  I got excited too, but look at the date on the post. It was from last year. Anyway, if you look at Madison's website, they say the next process is late next year or early 2009.

                  Mack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SCSmith View Post
                    What are people's thoughts on the differences between the Madison and Milwaukee fire departments? Is one harder to get on than the other? I know that they're both good departments
                    I don't know a lot about Madison. I went up and worked in a Madison firehouse last January, so that the members up there could attend the funeral of one of their brothers killed in an accident.
                    Honestly, it was a very good feel. We were there at shift change, so we met the oncoming and off going guys. I was very impressed with the guys I met, and the 'guide' we had to help us out. They have their act together over there. They have their problems, but so do we. Over all, the guys we met were very up beat, and very professional. We had a great time helping them out.


                    Milwaukee does operate more traditionally, and has no quints. There are 36 engine houses in Milwaukee, with 37 engine companies and 16 truck companies.
                    Madison has I believe 10 stations, with another house or two in the near future.
                    Both places have diverse populations, though Milwaukee has far more diversity than Madison. Remember, Milwaukee is a minority-majority city, and is significantly larger than Madison.
                    If you want more fire duty, then Milwaukee would be your choice. Remember though, that not every engine house is busy.


                    but is one slightly more desirable to work for?

                    This is a question that you have to answer for yourself. I am biased towards Milwaukee, and have never regretted working here.
                    I will honestly say that Madison takes care of their guys better. Their gear, their little perks written into their CBA, and the fact that there is no residency clause. We're working on some of those issues here, though.
                    Living in the city here can be a real hardship on guys with a family. You can't send your kids to Milwaukee public schools, unless you don't care about your kids, and their safety or education.
                    You will earn more money in Madison, but will see far less fire duty. You will also be able to live anywhere that you want to though, in working for Madison. Here, you have six months to have a city address, from your date of appointment, the first 5 five of which is spent in the recruit school.

                    Pension is really about equal; they are in the state pension, we're in the city of Milwaukee pension.


                    Milwaukee and Madison are really cities going in different directions. Milwaukee is a declining city with a soaring crime rate, and it's a city that has virtually lost all of it's industry, and now it's population, to the tune or 7-8% per year. I believe the property tax rate here is higher than the city of Madison's. Madison is growing, significantly. Madison's department is growing, while we have faced line firefighter cuts for the past 5 years, and will continue to do so in the future.

                    I guess the biggest difference is just the size of departments. Madison has around 300 uniformed, while Milwaukee is around 1100. Both have paramedic programs, both offer special operations, and both offer an urban appeal and feel.

                    I guess my only advice is to test with both and see what happens, maybe the choice will be made for you.

                    Anything else you want to know, let me know.
                    Last edited by jasper45; 12-07-2007, 12:32 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by clark918 View Post
                      I think Milwaukee is about $34k and Madison is around $48k.
                      Starting pay for Milwaukee was 34K/year in 2006, but I think it's gone up since then, because Madison started out at the 34K/year too in 2005. $48K/year is more than what Madison firefighters beginning salary is. I looked at Madison's union contract and found that, as of Jan. 1 of this year, firefighters start out at $1,538.97 every two weeks, which comes out to just over $40K/year. That's still not bad at all. I think Milwaukee will be about the same or even just a little more when they hire their next group.
                      Until you've been on a Harley-Davidson, you haven't been on a motorcycle

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                      • #12
                        Has anyone heard anything more about Milwaukee starting a hiring process anytime soon? It said on their website that they anticipated taking applications in late spring or early summer of 2008. I saw the same thing that mack did on Madison's website that they're also expecting to start another hiring process in late 2008/early 2009. To get on one of these two departments would really be a dream come true.

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                        • #13
                          Milwaukee will be taking apps soon. They want more of a local crowd so they aren't advertising much. They will only be takin apps for only a week. The first class is scheduled for January 09. It will be 60 people. After that they are expecting two more classes from the list of 30 people. There are rumors of switching to the CPAT this year as well as rumors of a normal oral interview instead of the BPAD.

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                          • #14
                            It sounds like you really have the inside scoop on Milwaukee, clark! I'm surprised to hear that they're only taking applications for a week?! That's a much shorter window than most departments have open for applying. About a month seems more common. I'm sure they'll still get plenty of applicants, though. From what you're saying, it sounds like they'll be hiring a lot of firefighters - pretty exciting.

                            What is the BPAD, anyway?

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                            • #15
                              Yea, they want to keep it more local this time. They won't be advertising on tv or the paper. They are expecting 3500-5000 applicants.

                              The BPAD is the interview that they've run in the past. It's a video interview with scenarios. Here's more info: http://www.bpad.com/

                              Keep in mind that these are "rumors", but they are most likely true. I have heard this information from two retired Battalion Chiefs of the department. One happens to be the head of the Fire Tech program at the local community college and this is what some recruiters from MFD said when they came in last week.

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