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  • Navy to FD

    Good afternoon Ladies and gents,

    So, I finally decided to get out the Navy after 11 hard years and looking on finally pursuing my life long dream (I realize its everyone in this forums dream) of becoming a Firefighter.
    at the moment I have a Bachelors in Medical Admin, and have been and EMT for the last few years. I've done multiple deployments as a medic and have done the whole medic thing in the field and hospital my entire career.
    my question is what are most departments looking for? Should I enroll into a Firefighter 1 program and get certified? is this possible without being apart of an actual department? seeking guidance from others going through the same process or who have already made it. Thank you.

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    I was an Army Medic myself.

    Generally, big cities don?t require certifications in order to apply and test for, but there is a much larger candidate pool/tougher competition. Smaller cities generally require you to have atleast some of your certifications prior to applying. Some states require department affiliation in order to attend a fire academy to get certified, however, I am not intimately familiar which ones do and I do not believe it?s all that common (Most states aren?t that way). I would recommend finding out if your state is that way, though.

    I used my Post 9/11 to pay for Paramedic school and Fire Academy on my own to help broaden my options, though I do hunt that big city fire dream. Using the GI Bill for those programs was pretty simple; the benefit specialists were incredibly helpful. I know you said that you have a B.S in Health Science, but if you have any of your GI Bill left it?d cover the cost.

    Also worth mentioning, you can use your DD-214 for Veteran?s Preference points on tests, though there are a couple places out there that are restrictive on those (I.E Must be a resident in order for the points to apply). Generally, most will accept the DD-214 and give you the points.

    I hope this helps, Good Luck!

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    • #3
      Did the same thing, got out as a Corpsman. I didnt have my EMT cert though which I feel kind of boned me when I applied to a big city department because a lot of other candidates had it. A good amount of departments in my state require that you have your EMT cert before applying.

      I enrolled in a fire science program at a nearby community college, it was great because I got my FF1,FF2,Hazmat awareness/ops and my EMT, but also the instructors are extremely valuable resources for information, interview help, reference letters etc.

      In my state, if you get hired with a full time department, you still have to go through that departments recruit academy regardless, however having gone through the colleges academy gave me an edge over some shmuck off the street.

      So yeah, it is possible to get your certs through a program like I did or in my state some volunteer departments will put you through an academy to get you your FF1/Hazmat certs.

      With your degree, military experience and already having your EMT, youre a very competitive candidate man. If youre out already or soon to be out, start testing everywhere you can as soon as you can for wherever you wanna go.

      Good luck, devil doc!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DocMackey View Post
        Good afternoon Ladies and gents,

        So, I finally decided to get out the Navy after 11 hard years and looking on finally pursuing my life long dream (I realize its everyone in this forums dream) of becoming a Firefighter.
        at the moment I have a Bachelors in Medical Admin, and have been and EMT for the last few years. I've done multiple deployments as a medic and have done the whole medic thing in the field and hospital my entire career.
        my question is what are most departments looking for? Should I enroll into a Firefighter 1 program and get certified? is this possible without being apart of an actual department? seeking guidance from others going through the same process or who have already made it. Thank you.
        Which state do you want to live/ work in??

        Need to start there.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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        • #5
          Thank you for all of your replies! So a major issue that may bite me on the ***** is my age.. Im 34 and will EAOS at 36.. what's the max age department's are hiring vets? also, my home town is San Francisco and I grew up across the street from one of the most amazing departments I've seen in my life. Now I understand how dificult it is to get in with them.. so honestly I'm open to anywhere.

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          • #6
            If you want to stay in calif, you see there is competition.

            Best advice, get on the computer look at as many cities in ca. Bookmark the fire dept web site. Start compiling what gheybrequire as far as certs, just to apply.
            To include if there is an age limit.

            if there is a way to get the certs before you get out, do it.

            You can even put job interest cards in. This will let you know when they will test, or tested last, You might even set for a test, just to see what they are like.

            Once you get out test everywhere and any where. Get hired after a tear or two, if you do not like it start testing again.

            Suggest you do the same for a couple of states you might want to live in. Almost every state and city has a different hiring process.


            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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            • #7
              There is a program to help hire vets, will have to find the name of it.

              Also since you are emt, get your paramedic before you get out, and you are almost guaranteed a job in Texas.


              Check weekly: a few have age limits::



              https://www.tcfp.texas.gov/job_postings/jobs.asp


              thank you for your service. I know the Navy life is not easy.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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              • #8
                Originally posted by fire49 View Post
                If you want to stay in calif, you see there is competition.

                Best advice, get on the computer look at as many cities in ca. Bookmark the fire dept web site. Start compiling what gheybrequire as far as certs, just to apply.
                To include if there is an age limit.

                if there is a way to get the certs before you get out, do it.

                You can even put job interest cards in. This will let you know when they will test, or tested last, You might even set for a test, just to see what they are like.

                Once you get out test everywhere and any where. Get hired after a tear or two, if you do not like it start testing again.

                Suggest you do the same for a couple of states you might want to live in. Almost every state and city has a different hiring process.

                Fire49, Thank you for the valuable information ill keep doing research. would you say for most departments having my paramedic license would be more valuable than possessing my firefighter 1,2 certification?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hydrohippo View Post
                  Did the same thing, got out as a Corpsman. I didnt have my EMT cert though which I feel kind of boned me when I applied to a big city department because a lot of other candidates had it. A good amount of departments in my state require that you have your EMT cert before applying.

                  I enrolled in a fire science program at a nearby community college, it was great because I got my FF1,FF2,Hazmat awareness/ops and my EMT, but also the instructors are extremely valuable resources for information, interview help, reference letters etc.

                  In my state, if you get hired with a full time department, you still have to go through that departments recruit academy regardless, however having gone through the colleges academy gave me an edge over some shmuck off the street.

                  So yeah, it is possible to get your certs through a program like I did or in my state some volunteer departments will put you through an academy to get you your FF1/Hazmat certs.

                  With your degree, military experience and already having your EMT, youre a very competitive candidate man. If youre out already or soon to be out, start testing everywhere you can as soon as you can for wherever you wanna go.

                  Good luck, devil doc!
                  Hydrohippo, thank you. what school and sate did you receive your certs? interested what's out there. I've signed up for https://nationaltestingnetwork.com and will test for a few departments around the country. is there a study guide for these test? I cant seem to find any info on the site.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DocMackey View Post

                    Fire49, Thank you for the valuable information ill keep doing research. would you say for most departments having my paramedic license would be more valuable than possessing my firefighter 1,2 certification?
                    In Texas yes,

                    You have to look at each departments minimum hiring requirements.

                    Some may require ff cert only, some may require ff cert and some medical cert.

                    Some departments do not have paramedics, so I do not want to use the word useless, but in away it would be.

                    That is the problem with depts, each has their own requirements.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DocMackey View Post

                      Hydrohippo, thank you. what school and sate did you receive your certs? interested what's out there. I've signed up for https://nationaltestingnetwork.com and will test for a few departments around the country. is there a study guide for these test? I cant seem to find any info on the site.
                      Some of the tests are simple as add one plus one, others are more involved.

                      Your problem in testing in various states is travel costs, normally you have 1. the written, physical agility, interview, and if offered a position a few more trips. AND, on their schedule, which can be kind of last minute.

                      That is why I advise select just a few states, maybe the one you want to live in, and either neighboring, or ones easy to get to.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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                      • #12
                        https://www.eatstress.com/

                        This a great site for info, plus up to you if you want to buy some of the help. It seems to help.
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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                        • #13
                          one more possible help site::

                          https://paddybrownprogram.org/jobs/

                          The other thing is make sure you are in and keep in physical shape, a lot of depts to something similar to CPAT test.


                          https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...er+test+video+




                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fire49 View Post
                            one more possible help site::

                            https://paddybrownprogram.org/jobs/

                            The other thing is make sure you are in and keep in physical shape, a lot of depts to something similar to CPAT test.


                            https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...er+test+video+



                            Thanks again! Question... I found this web site https://www.firerescue1academy.com/f...refighter-1-2/

                            Is it possible to get my fire fighter 1 and 2 certs online?? Or training and take a state test?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DocMackey View Post

                              Thanks again! Question... I found this web site https://www.firerescue1academy.com/f...refighter-1-2/

                              Is it possible to get my fire fighter 1 and 2 certs online?? Or training and take a state test?
                              I know there are academy's in Texas that you can get your certs online, but you have to do a skills and live burn portion. They generally set aside specific dates for you to be at the academy to do this. But, each state has different regs for your initial FF certs. In Texas you can't just get your FF1, you take the TCFP regulated academy and then test. When we finish we have FF1/2, Hazmat Awareness and Hazmat Ops. I was in the Navy (operations specialist), unfortunately most of our training doesn't help in the real world. You have one of few jobs that does. I suggest you get your paramedic, it will only help. You need to look at what the process is for you to get your fire cert in California. Once you start getting them you are going to want to get your IFSAC seals for each cert. This will allow you to take your cert almost anywhere in the country. It is just a matter of you turning your state cert info in and paying for the "seal".

                              I am 33 and in the process of re-certing here in Texas. I was "certifiable" before I joined the Navy, and have to retest because of my time away. In Texas you have to take the state fire test and meet specific EMS requirements before being certified FF. A lot of the departments here have age restrictions, that is one of the downsides here. I am likely moving to another state (probably the west coast, but never Cali again, no offense). I took my NTN test this past spring, they have a practice test you can buy. That is pretty much the only studying you can do. I suggest you buy theirs because of the video portions, it is different and it is worth being prepared. I think most people have issues with the HR portion of it. The practice test will give you why each answer is correct or incorrect for the scenario.

                              Best of luck!

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