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What Do Guys Consider When Choosing Between Departments?

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  • What Do Guys Consider When Choosing Between Departments?

    Basically, seeing what others look for when choosing the fire departments to apply for. Whether it be the schedule, the size of the department, the style of firefighting the department uses, etc.

    Here's what I got so far:

    -Schedule
    -Pay
    -Size of department
    -Specialized units
    -Incentive pay for degrees, certifications, emergency Spanish, etc.
    -How many years to promote to each rank
    -Whether department pays into Social Security
    -Cost of living of nearby areas
    -How many years/percentage/COLA of pension
    -Call volume
    -State income tax
    -Property tax in nearby areas
    -Weather

    Probably missing a lot more. This is just off the top of my head. Here's my reasoning for them all:


    Schedule: There are some departments with high call volumes that run 48's. Some that do the NoVa schedule. Don't want to be on one of those. I know you'll never get perfect sleep as a firefighter, but slep disorders destroy life expectancy. Don't want to harm my health more than I have to.

    Pay: I feel like this is obvious. All else equal, would rather be at a department that pays $75k than one that pays $70k.

    Size of department: With small departments, harder to move up, as not as many retirements happen. Usually less specialized units you can be a part of. Also, miss out on the benefit of just being another face.

    Specialized units: Would rather be on a department that allows me to be on units, such as Water Rescue, High-Angle Rescue, HAZMAT, SWAT-Medic, etc.

    Incentive pay for degrees, certifications, emergency Spanish, etc.: Just an extension of the point I made regarding pay. Ways to pad your pension and your salary.

    How many years to promote to each rank: Would like to move up as quickly as possible.

    Whether department pays into Social Security: Would rather NOT have this (as I would make far more in the long-run just putting my money into index funds)

    Cost of living of nearby areas: If you get paid $1k more, but your mortgage costs $2k more, you're worse off. High pay + LCOL = best of both worlds

    How many years/percentage/COLA of pension: Don't want to work forever. Eventually want to retire. Actually, as soon as possible.

    Call volume: Could see the argument both ways. More calls equals more experience. Less calls equals more sleep, and more time to do chores.

    State income tax: Can make a pretty big dent on your pay if state taxes are high.

    Property tax in nearby areas: See above.

    Weather: Hate the cold. Gimme FL sunshine all day.

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    Community involvement, department leadership, pay/schedule/retirement, not riddled with political issues (houston for example), dept that takes care of their own (cancer prevention, awareness, etc)

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    • #3
      Whoever wants to hire me basically

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      • #4
        Yeah I?m with the other gentlemen. Basically anyone who will take me. I?d be happy anywhere doing the job.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hopeful_fireman View Post
          Whoever wants to hire me basically
          Count me in on that reason!!

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          • #6
            In Soviet Russia you do not choose department. Department chooses you.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hopeful_fireman View Post
              Whoever wants to hire me basically
              Pretty much this.
              Beggars can?t be choosers, until you actually get hired and have a badge and some time/experience, then you can start considering your options.

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              • #8
                There are far too many people wanting far too little fire jobs that bring super picky about a department drastically reduces ones chances to get hired on. Test anywhere and everywhere to improve the chances of getting a job.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PWCCandidate View Post
                  Basically, seeing what others look for when choosing the fire departments to apply for. Whether it be the schedule, the size of the department, the style of firefighting the department uses, etc.

                  Here's what I got so far:

                  -Schedule
                  -Pay
                  -Size of department
                  -Specialized units
                  -Incentive pay for degrees, certifications, emergency Spanish, etc.
                  -How many years to promote to each rank
                  -Whether department pays into Social Security
                  -Cost of living of nearby areas
                  -How many years/percentage/COLA of pension
                  -Call volume
                  -State income tax
                  -Property tax in nearby areas
                  -Weather

                  Probably missing a lot more. This is just off the top of my head. Here's my reasoning for them all:


                  Schedule: There are some departments with high call volumes that run 48's. Some that do the NoVa schedule. Don't want to be on one of those. I know you'll never get perfect sleep as a firefighter, but slep disorders destroy life expectancy. Don't want to harm my health more than I have to.

                  Pay: I feel like this is obvious. All else equal, would rather be at a department that pays $75k than one that pays $70k.

                  Size of department: With small departments, harder to move up, as not as many retirements happen. Usually less specialized units you can be a part of. Also, miss out on the benefit of just being another face.

                  Specialized units: Would rather be on a department that allows me to be on units, such as Water Rescue, High-Angle Rescue, HAZMAT, SWAT-Medic, etc.

                  Incentive pay for degrees, certifications, emergency Spanish, etc.: Just an extension of the point I made regarding pay. Ways to pad your pension and your salary.

                  How many years to promote to each rank: Would like to move up as quickly as possible.

                  Whether department pays into Social Security: Would rather NOT have this (as I would make far more in the long-run just putting my money into index funds)

                  Cost of living of nearby areas: If you get paid $1k more, but your mortgage costs $2k more, you're worse off. High pay + LCOL = best of both worlds

                  How many years/percentage/COLA of pension: Don't want to work forever. Eventually want to retire. Actually, as soon as possible.

                  Call volume: Could see the argument both ways. More calls equals more experience. Less calls equals more sleep, and more time to do chores.

                  State income tax: Can make a pretty big dent on your pay if state taxes are high.

                  Property tax in nearby areas: See above.

                  Weather: Hate the cold. Gimme FL sunshine all day.


                  Currently looking to go full time.

                  Im looking for:

                  Pay: need to make at least what I make now.

                  Local: Ive got my roots planted and not willing to move. Need to be within an hour of home.

                  Schedule: not looking to do the 48/96 shifts.

                  Other than that, good opportunities. Not neccisarily for promotion, but just to better myself.



                  As for social security, I may be mistaken but I wasnt aware you could get out of it?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JSJJ388 View Post



                    Currently looking to go full time.

                    Im looking for:

                    Pay: need to make at least what I make now.

                    Local: Ive got my roots planted and not willing to move. Need to be within an hour of home.

                    Schedule: not looking to do the 48/96 shifts.

                    Other than that, good opportunities. Not neccisarily for promotion, but just to better myself.



                    As for social security, I may be mistaken but I wasnt aware you could get out of it?
                    Yeah. Some places except those receiving pensions. Joke is on them, since I don't want social security.

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                    • #11
                      Test anywhere you can! When 500 apply for 5 jobs and someone has the gall to ask what are you looking for when you pick a department to apply at.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Aaron228 View Post
                        Test anywhere you can! When 500 apply for 5 jobs and someone has the gall to ask what are you looking for when you pick a department to apply at.
                        So we should just throw standards out of the window because there's very few jobs?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PWCCandidate View Post

                          So we should just throw standards out of the window because there's very few jobs?
                          Maybe I am lucky, but where I am at, every career department around here meets safety standards, pays well and treats their people well. So I'm not sure what standard you are looking for. What sort of standard would make or break a choice for you?

                          Part of it is this Millennial thing, gotta have the best job ever or it won't work.

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                          • #14
                            I think it really depends on OP's intention before we make any sort of judgement. If he isn't on a department yet and is being picky about applying to places locally, yes he is being foolish. However there are people spending thousands of dollars on plane tickets and taking time off work just to apply to some departments. If he's in that group, then yes he should be picky. Nobody can afford to make 2 or 3 plane trips every time a department is hiring.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Aaron228 View Post

                              Maybe I am lucky, but where I am at, every career department around here meets safety standards, pays well and treats their people well. So I'm not sure what standard you are looking for. What sort of standard would make or break a choice for you?

                              Part of it is this Millennial thing, gotta have the best job ever or it won't work.
                              Plenty of things could break it. Crap pay, terrible benefits, little room for advancement, terrible schedule.

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