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  • #16
    All you have to do is go back to the city/ county you were convicted in and ask for a copy of your convection record

    Sometimes you can do it over the phone, fax or email

    I am surprised you have not been asked or told that you have a conviction in 16 years

    If it was me I would find out today
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    • #17
      Originally posted by dennish1234 View Post
      Well I dont really no if it is a felony it happened when I was 18 years old,I got into a fight it just happen to be in a public place and the overzeless police officer charged me with anything he could I should have fought it but are system is not designed that way there is no guilty or inocense you take a good plea and move on it has never affected me up until now.And I do agree I think I am probalally wasting my time,and I do commend everyone who has never gotten into any troulble,but I will corect you on this I no alot and we see it everyday fire fighters,police officers and others in public services lying,cheating,stealing,abusing drugs and acohol and commiting other criminal acts I just wonder all the times that they are sweep under the rug by a higher up officer that is supossed to have morals,and all those that I would be competing with most of them did worse stuff then me they just didnt get caught,and your right it's life it is bull**** but whatever,
      Your first post showed someone that was in his 30's and doing well to distance himself from a prior mistake.
      This post reads like someone that is drunk, or a teenager texting, or unable to spell.

      Either way, maybe working for a private ambulance company will be the closest you can get to firefighting.
      And that is a huge maybe.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by hardtimesff View Post
        Most departments cut off at age 35. So by the time you finish medic school you will be over the age limit for most if not all departments.
        Not true for many departments....very few Virginia departments have age cut offs for hiring. We hired a guy that was 53.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by dennish1234 View Post
          Well I dont really no if it is a felony it happened when I was 18 years old,I got into a fight it just happen to be in a public place and the overzeless police officer charged me with anything he could I should have fought it but are system is not designed that way there is no guilty or inocense you take a good plea and move on it has never affected me up until now.And I do agree I think I am probalally wasting my time,and I do commend everyone who has never gotten into any troulble,but I will corect you on this I no alot and we see it everyday fire fighters,police officers and others in public services lying,cheating,stealing,abusing drugs and acohol and commiting other criminal acts I just wonder all the times that they are sweep under the rug by a higher up officer that is supossed to have morals,and all those that I would be competing with most of them did worse stuff then me they just didnt get caught,and your right it's life it is bull**** but whatever,
          Did this fight you got in happen to be with that police officer?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by dennish1234 View Post
            .And I do agree I think I am probalally wasting my time,and I do commend everyone who has never gotten into any troulble,but I will corect you on this I no alot and we see it everyday fire fighters,police officers and others in public services lying, cheating, stealing, abusing drugs and acohol and commiting other criminal acts I just wonder all the times that they are sweep under the rug by a higher up officer that is supossed to have morals,and all those that I would be competing with most of them did worse stuff then me they just didnt get caught,and your right it's life it is bull**** but whatever,
            Quit being bitter with us because you have a criminal record. And EVERY profession has some bad apples, but to put a blanket statement out there all of us cheating, stealing, boozing, etc is pretty out of line.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by dennish1234 View Post
              I will corect you on this I no alot and we see it everyday fire fighters,police officers and others in public services lying,cheating,stealing,abusing drugs and acohol and commiting other criminal acts I just wonder all the times that they are sweep under the rug by a higher up officer that is supossed to have morals,and all those that I would be competing with most of them did worse stuff then me they just didnt get caught,and your right it's life it is bull**** but whatever,
              Box hit it right on the head, quit being BITTER. That’s a broad statement "we see it every day"; sure there are a few police and firefighters that do everything that you listed. However you can say the same for every profession. Weekly we here about teachers that have inappropriate relationships with students. Bankers and accountants that embezzle money. How about contractors that bill for work they didn’t do? There are bad apples in all professions. Ours is no different. However we do try to prevent those bad apples from entering into our profession. In most places your criminal record is considered. Even if it was a long time ago. There are too many people who did keep their nose clean.
              You screwed up when you were younger. If it was a felony look elsewhere, if it was a misdemeanor you can probably still get hired. However, I would suggest that you lose the attitude and quit crying about how unfair it is.

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              • #22
                The last two posters said it all.
                I was not a choir boy by any means, but I did manage to stay out of legal trouble. That doesn't mean I didn't do my fair share of stupid stuff.
                The difference is, I grew up, learned from my mistakes and was honest about it all. I remained humble and thankful that the fire department yet was willing to talk to me and I'm in line for the academy now.
                You can choose to let your past dictate your future, or you can rise above and move on stopping the "I'm a victim" stuff.
                Regardless of whether or not your past will disqualify you or will be overlooked, your bigger problem appears to be your attitude.

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                • #23
                  I do not see were I have had a bad attitude regarding my statement,I also am not crying about my situation,I havn't really seen it as a bad thing until now all I am saying is it is unfair to penalize someone for the rest of their life for something that happened a long time ago,and you are right every profession has bad apples,I am interested in a profession were I am helping people how many so called criminals are looking to do that,all I am saying regarding this indutry is I am no different than any of you and should be aforded the same oppertunites as any of you are,so if we want to be fair then lets keep penalizing people forever for mistakes they made in their past, but be fair and when a public service professonal gets a dui,or breaks any criminal law they are fired without pay and given no special treatment when I see that happen then you can talk about fairness but I won't hold my breath on it!!

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                  • #24
                    Original poster - I know you think your situation is unique, and you're desiring a unique answer to keep your dream alive...

                    But please, lord almighty...use the search function. This (and related) topic has been discussed countless times on these boards...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by dennish1234 View Post
                      when a public service professonal gets a dui,or breaks any criminal law they are fired without pay and given no special treatment
                      I don't know about the rest of the country, but I guarantee if a Firefighter here(in Southern California) were to get a DUI, they would be fired. Not only because they weren't responsible, but also because they would lose their Class B license which is a job requirement.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by dennish1234 View Post
                        be fair and when a public service professonal gets a dui,or breaks any criminal law they are fired without pay and given no special treatment when I see that happen then you can talk about fairness but I won't hold my breath on it!!
                        Hey pal, I don't know what hole you have been living in. But its pretty common in the fire service to zero tolerance for DUI and other criminal activities. You might think you know it all by making broad statements assumptions, but I've got news for you. You dont! The vast majority of career departments that I know of hold their members to a higher statndard than the rest of the city. For example, if you work for any city department a speeding ticket might not be a big deal. However I worked for a place that could give you time off without pay if you got a ticket or points against your DL. A DUI? Foreget about it. If you get convicted of DUI you are terminated. At least with the 3 career departments that I have worked for. As far as criminal activity. At best an arrest is going to get you time off without pay. A misdermenor conviction, well that will more than likely be a very, very severe penalty. A Felony conviction will always lead to termination. I don't know of any states that will allow you to hold and EMT certification if you are a convicted Felon.

                        Maybe its time for you to simmer down and move on down the road.
                        Last edited by kyhunter42; 03-31-2011, 10:50 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by boburgess117 View Post
                          I don't know about the rest of the country, but I guarantee if a Firefighter here(in Southern California) were to get a DUI, they would be fired. Not only because they weren't responsible, but also because they would lose their Class B license which is a job requirement.
                          I think that is pretty standard across the board. A few small or combination departments might let it slide, but those are far and few between.

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                          • #28
                            Ladies...

                            Deep breath...it's just an internet message board.

                            Why get so fired up?

                            Yeesh...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dennish1234 View Post
                              I do not see were I have had a bad attitude regarding my statement,I also am not crying about my situation,I havn't really seen it as a bad thing until now all I am saying is it is unfair to penalize someone for the rest of their life for something that happened a long time ago,and you are right every profession has bad apples,I am interested in a profession were I am helping people how many so called criminals are looking to do that,all I am saying regarding this indutry is I am no different than any of you and should be aforded the same oppertunites as any of you are,so if we want to be fair then lets keep penalizing people forever for mistakes they made in their past, but be fair and when a public service professonal gets a dui,or breaks any criminal law they are fired without pay and given no special treatment when I see that happen then you can talk about fairness but I won't hold my breath on it!!
                              I believe that this is the part that you are struggling to understand. You are different from "us" in the fact that you have a criminal record. "We" do not. People that have managed to keep their nose clean and stay out of trouble absolutely should be afforded more opportunity than someone that hasnt. I commend you for turning your life around and encourage you to pursue your dream whether anyone else says you have a chance or not. As for people that are on the job and have made these kinds of mistake, their saving grace is the fact that they have held their position prior to these mistakes and based on there past may be able to jump through some hoops in order to keep their job.

                              Good luck to you no matter what path you choose to follow!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by boburgess117 View Post
                                I don't know about the rest of the country, but I guarantee if a Firefighter here(in Southern California) were to get a DUI, they would be fired. Not only because they weren't responsible, but also because they would lose their Class B license which is a job requirement.
                                I know of a large socal dept which may not fire you but (iirc) suspend and demote though. Not personal experience, before someone asks, it's secondhand.

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