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    Everyone out there, what do you prefer on your helmets goggles and flip downs or facesheilds? I am trying to decide what to get, on my last helmet i had goggles, flip down, and a facesheild, it all got in the way of eachother and i need each piece of equip.

  • #2
    Originally posted by expvol
    on my last helmet i had goggles, flip down, and a facesheild, it all got in the way of eachother and i need each piece of equip.
    how is that possible to have all three on the same helmet? i can understand with the bourkes and goggles, or the faceshield and the goggles but how did u manage to get bourkes and the faceshield on the same helmet??

    On my helmet i have the faceshield, i dont like it, i prefer the bourkes.but a lot of people at my firehouse like the faceshield better.

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    • #3
      I dont know how it worked, my facesheild fit down and the bourke flip downs were about 3millimeters from the front sheild, the goggles were ESS Interzone II, they were detachable, i stored them in the rear of my helmet. I did this because sometimes I would need the facesheild, or the bourkes, or the goggles

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      • #4
        I perfer Bourke's The facesheild just doesnt look right on leather helmets!
        Rob aka Squinty

        The Fighting Seventy-Third

        Westville Fire Department
        Gloucester County
        New Jersey

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        • #5
          i like the faceshield. I believe it gives more protection then the bourkes.
          Firefighter, Volunteering since Oct 2001

          CCFA 05-04, best overall class for 2005
          "GOOD GAME!"

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          • #6
            Faceshields all the way

            I have never had goggles. But I have had filp downs
            And I didnt like them. Now we have the faceshields
            I think they are much better compared to the flip downs at least.
            Cadet Fire & Rescue Deputy Chief 31
            Monessen Volunteer Fire Department #1
            Westmoreland County Station 81-1

            "Going far beyond the call of duty, doing more than others expect, this is what excellence is all about. And it comes from striving, maintaining the highest standards, looking after the smallest detail, and going the extra mile. Excellence means doing your best every day, in everything."

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            • #7
              Facesheilds for me, provides more protection, and looks better.
              IACOJ

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              • #8
                I have a faceshield on mine, department issued helmet. A new standard set by NFPA recommends that all helmets be used with goggles, if I'm not mistaken.
                "I truly believe that tradition is important to the long-term survival of the fire service."-Lt. Andrew Fredricks, FDNY,9-11-01

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                • #9
                  All you that think bourkes/faceshields are the cats meow are going to be in world of hurt and blindness and up the no insurance coverage creek with out a paddle when something pile drives its way into you eye! If you use faceshield/bourkes you need supplemental eye protection to comply with NFPA-1971,2000 edit.

                  Use a pair of safety glasses or goggles to comply with NFPA 1971 and retain your vision till the end of your carrer.

                  People I dont make this stuff up!

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                  • #10
                    I have goggles on mine, I love them but they seal right above my eyebrows and when I sweat, it drips down into them. But they offer great protection.
                    No longer an explorer, but I didn't wanna lose my posts.

                    IACOJ 2003

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                    • #11
                      on my dept issued metro 660, i had a face shield. on my dept issued N6A leather, i had a face shield. all of the new dept helmets are coming with goggles.

                      the faceshield is not approved by NFPA if it is used by itself, only as a secondary means of protections. bourkes don't satisfy the NFPA requirement either.

                      The faceshield is nice when it is being used. it flips down, and it isn't affect by eye glasses. when its not being used, it's a huge pain in the ***. mine always ended up falling down at the worst time. oh, and the face shield just looks sooooooooo wrong on a leather helmet.

                      my new personal leather new yorker is going to have bourkes, as well as detachable ESS II goggles. if money isn't a problem for you, get the bourkes for the look, and the goggles for protection. of you can just get the bourkes, and carry a pair of safety glasses in your pocket.
                      If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!

                      FF/EMT/DBP

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dfdex1
                        People I dont make this stuff up!
                        you dont??



                        Originally posted by dfdex1
                        when something pile drives its way into you eye!
                        ok maybe so but what says goggles arent going to stop it either??

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                        • #13
                          The faceshields are a pain, and Bourkes don't cut it. I have ESS Extricators and Bourkes on my helmet. Not like you can see out of my Bourkes anyways !! They are very "Crusty". And DFD is correct, you are required to have a primary eye protection(safety glasses, goggles) when using bourkes OR a faceshield.
                          AKA: Mr. Whoo-Whoo

                          IAFF Local 3900

                          IACOJ-The Crusty Glow Worm

                          ENGINE 302 - The Fire Rats

                          F.A.N.T.A.M FOOLS FTM-PTB

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                          • #14
                            ok maybe so but what says goggles arent going to stop it either??
                            If you're wearing them properly, nothing should get in between your goggles and your face to get you in the eye.
                            These are my opinions, not those of my career department, my volunteer company, or my affiliates. And by the way, I'm not a Junior.

                            Buy me a drink, sing me a song, take me as I come 'cause I can't stay long.

                            Johnny Greene: 2/3/45-5/2/04
                            Forever in our hearts

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                            • #15
                              ok maybe so but what says goggles arent going to stop it either
                              OSHA!

                              Take my word for it,an explorer in another town got a metal splinter lodged in his tear gland a few years ago because he thought bourkes provided protection!

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