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  • #31
    Well what would you do?

    If you just switched to 911 and they didnt know exactly where to send the department on occasion. Would you let the house burn while you called 911 from your station or emergency phone outside of your station. Not to mention that their might be victim entrappment. Now I'm sure we are not all idiots here. Truely, would you let that child burn while you dialed 911 when the thing to set off the minitors was right next to the phone. Or maybe its a mother it doesnt matter who it is. What would you do? Come On Now Think about it.
    Cadet Fire & Rescue Deputy Chief 31
    Monessen Volunteer Fire Department #1
    Westmoreland County Station 81-1

    "Going far beyond the call of duty, doing more than others expect, this is what excellence is all about. And it comes from striving, maintaining the highest standards, looking after the smallest detail, and going the extra mile. Excellence means doing your best every day, in everything."

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    • #32
      I can see where your comming from MVFD81. I can understand your logic in this matter. It's the way you said it that didn't sound right.

      Have you talked to your chief about that possibility? Have you talked to him about maybe one day having to do that? Have you talked to him about the fact that if that were to happen that it could save time and lives? Bring it up to your chief, who knows what could happen.
      Firefighter, Volunteering since Oct 2001

      CCFA 05-04, best overall class for 2005
      "GOOD GAME!"

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      • #33
        Self-dispatching when you have a dispatch center is up there with free-lancing on a fire scene. Follow the proper procedure for reporting an incident. You have a dispatch center for a REASON. Paging terminals in the firehouse officer are supposed to be a BACKUP and to make an occasional announcement. Not for kids to pretend to be a dispatcher.

        If your 9-1-1 center takes so long to put out a call that children are continually being burned alive as you suggest, then you have others issues that need to be addressed. Self-Dispatching is not the answer to that. And based on your track record here so far, I wouldn't trust you anywhere near a Zetron or a microphone to begin with.
        Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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        • #34
          Thank you for the encouragement nmfire

          Well thanks. I didnt say that there were kids burning in our town and god help us if there ever is a structure fire by the department. this is not Self-Dispatching I would call it more or less saving a life. Mdodds thanks for your support I may just bring this issue up to my cheif however we are long overdue for a structure fire in my small town of 8,000 ppl. What I'm saying there is we dont get that many structure fires. If I am correct the last Structure fire we had was in March. Is that what they are called Zetrons.
          Cadet Fire & Rescue Deputy Chief 31
          Monessen Volunteer Fire Department #1
          Westmoreland County Station 81-1

          "Going far beyond the call of duty, doing more than others expect, this is what excellence is all about. And it comes from striving, maintaining the highest standards, looking after the smallest detail, and going the extra mile. Excellence means doing your best every day, in everything."

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          • #35
            Re: Thank you for the encouragement nmfire

            Originally posted by MVFD81
            Well thanks. I didnt say that there were kids burning in our town and god help us if there ever is a structure fire by the department. this is not Self-Dispatching I would call it more or less saving a life
            Ugh. Sigh. -Shakes head-

            ...I may just bring this issue up to my cheif... What I'm saying there is we dont get that many structure fires... Is that what they are called Zetrons.

            Please, bring it up with him. Don't be disappointed if he tells you the same thing I did. Zetron is the big manufacturer of the tone encoders. It may not be a Zetron in your office but I tend to say Zetron instead of Paging Encoder sometimes.
            Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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            • #36
              I love how we seem to change the original subject to rip on other people...

              Anyway... at my station us junior's aren't allowed in or around the station w/out a senior b/c of insurance and bilaws-we don't get a key to the lounge or the garage either- but if the phone rings, I can answer it as long as someone else isn't in the office b/c then they just get it. Whoever picks up the phone answers with "Station 9" or "Level Green Firehall"... just a formal answer, and if it is an emergency, we can set off the minitors from our station, but if that would occur, there would be seniors already there, raring to go, and a commanding officer would call 911.
              9-38 Level Green

              Don't look at me like I can't do something just because I'm a woman!

              The Definition of Success- Doing what you love and getting paid for it. Are you succesful?

              -Tiffani

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              • #37
                In my explorer post we are not allowed in the fire stations without another firefighter or an adult over 21. but if we do have someone their thats a firefighter or over 21 we can answer the phone.
                Carrie Hagen
                CGFD Explorer
                HealthEast Paramedic Explorer
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                **FireFighting not recommeded for mere mortals **

                Bump 'N Grind
                Firefighting
                Get your hose out,
                Put your rubbers on,
                And get 'em real wet!


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                • #38
                  Now I am willing to accept anyones answer here. If you tone it out, have them call 911 or whether you call 911 dont matter. Its how you want to do it.

                  But... there is a right way and a wrong way in this thing. I wont state my opinions any further but if you do choose the wrong way, be ready for some reprocutions coming your way from the chief, county emergency services director possibly, and various other people.

                  Now I would say that you should have a little written policy on this. For 2 reasons so everyone knows what to do. (whether to tone it out or not and all that associated) and to cover your but. If you do go what we like to call "Radio Freelancing" than you could end up in a bunch of cow dung if something goes wrong. And these days... if someone died at the fire, it could be pinned on you if you didnt follow policy.

                  Other than that, I dont care what any of you do. But if your ever in my county and do that(tone yourself out), it will be the last time you will have the chance to.
                  Firefighter/EMT Mitch Cowen
                  Hose Co. 1 1st Lieutenant
                  Randolph Fire Co. Inc

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                  • #39
                    I would pick it up and go "Millerton Fire House"


                    Simple, I can pick up the phones, because as on of my buddies puts it: "This is your FireHouse too.".
                    IACOJ

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                    • #40
                      It is a Zetron

                      It is a Zetron in my station after all.
                      Cadet Fire & Rescue Deputy Chief 31
                      Monessen Volunteer Fire Department #1
                      Westmoreland County Station 81-1

                      "Going far beyond the call of duty, doing more than others expect, this is what excellence is all about. And it comes from striving, maintaining the highest standards, looking after the smallest detail, and going the extra mile. Excellence means doing your best every day, in everything."

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                      • #41
                        hey mike, did u ever bring up the paging thing with your chief? Just curious how that is doin.
                        Firefighter, Volunteering since Oct 2001

                        CCFA 05-04, best overall class for 2005
                        "GOOD GAME!"

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                        • #42
                          I am still trying

                          I cannot seem to contact him about this issue
                          Cadet Fire & Rescue Deputy Chief 31
                          Monessen Volunteer Fire Department #1
                          Westmoreland County Station 81-1

                          "Going far beyond the call of duty, doing more than others expect, this is what excellence is all about. And it comes from striving, maintaining the highest standards, looking after the smallest detail, and going the extra mile. Excellence means doing your best every day, in everything."

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