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  • Blue Lights as a Junior -- Parents Driving

    Greetings,
    I have been looking all over for an answer to this question and I am coming up empty. I'm 14, and a junior firefighter. The problem is, I live around 6-7 minutes away. I was wondering if there was any way my mother or father could drive me with a blue light? I understand that it is illegal. The question is, I have been scouring PA legislaton relating to this matter. The thing is, there is nothing directly about this that I can see. I'm not as worried about the how illegal it is, but more of the civil liablity risks involved if there was an accident. Does anyone have any suggestions? We mainly do QRS runs, and I most likely will never make the first truck.

    Thanks-
    v/r
    Carter Rowe

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    What does your department say?

    Also, go down and talk to the chief of police, and see what he says.


    Lastly, drive normal speed and you will beat every one there and be alive.

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    • #3
      The child labor laws have it outlined that as a jr firefighter that is not permitted. Now if one of your parents wanted to join the fire department with you and take the time to get all the paperwork put in to be a member and the fire chief clears them and they sign the blue light law paper that is put out by the psp then their is your fix if your parents are willing to drive you to the station then maybe get them to join that?s the best thing for you good luck love your dedication to want to help your department

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      • #4
        Originally posted by fire5555 View Post
        What does your department say?

        Also, go down and talk to the chief of police, and see what he says.


        Lastly, drive normal speed and you will beat every one there and be alive.
        My department stated the same thing as Smith271 recommended. My dad was an EMT in rochester, but he isn't interested in renewing his certificate because he simply doesn't have the time. I'm still trying to convince him to make the time. Thank you both for your responses, and I will look into both of them!

        v/r
        Carter Rowe

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        • #5
          Originally posted by smith271 View Post
          The child labor laws have it outlined that as a jr firefighter that is not permitted. Now if one of your parents wanted to join the fire department with you and take the time to get all the paperwork put in to be a member and the fire chief clears them and they sign the blue light law paper that is put out by the psp then their is your fix if your parents are willing to drive you to the station then maybe get them to join that?s the best thing for you good luck love your dedication to want to help your department
          Greetings,
          Thanks for the detailed response. Like I stated above- my dad was an EMT in a suburb of Rochester. He doesn't want to renew is certificate though, simply because he doesn't have the time. Like I said, it is just hard to get there in a timely fashion. The child labor laws relating to Jr. Firefighting really doesn't make much sense, and are somewhat vague. I think I might check with my Chief of police like fire5555 suggested, and just see what he/she would do in a situation like that. Once again, thank you for your assistance with this!

          v/r
          Carter Rowe

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          • #6
            Plus, do not know the laws in your state, but you are getting close to being able to drive. So stick it out and do what you can till you hit all the legal ages.

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            • #7
              Man, you have a lot to learn. No need to go to any legal review on this one. The answer is a gigantic NO.
              “I am more than just a serious basketball fan. I am a life-long addict. I was addicted from birth, in fact, because I was born in Kentucky.”
              ― Hunter S. Thompson

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              • #8
                I'd definitely advise against this. For one thing, you're just a junior right now. You don't (or shouldn't) have an active function on the fire ground. The 30 seconds you'll gain from having people pull over for a blue light isn't going to make a difference.

                But more importantly, you just said it yourself. It's illegal. The fact that you're even asking when you already know it's illegal can reflect very poorly on you and your department. Quite simply, a 14 year old has no business responding with a POV light.

                You've obviously got dedication, which is good! We need that. But for now, slow it down a little bit. You've got plenty of time ahead of you. No need to go rushing into this half-cocked and doing something brash. Take care out there

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EastKyFF View Post
                  Man, you have a lot to learn. No need to go to any legal review on this one. The answer is a gigantic NO.
                  Thank you very much,
                  I do have a lot to learn, I am very new to this. I tend to jump to legal a lot due to my current employment position at a law firm. I appreciate your assistance with this matter!

                  v/r
                  Carter Rowe

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                  • #10
                    I know everyone has pretty much said all the points but I would like to give my two cents.

                    I've been a jr. firefighter for about 2 years now, and I know what you are going through, I also live about 5 minutes from my station and it kills me when I have to pass up a call because I either don't make it to the station in time or because I do not have a ride to bring me. Now I would love to deck out a car with blue lights but it just isn't rational for a junior to do it, or to have your non-department parents do it. Its ok if you don't make the first due truck. To be honest, there isn't a lot a junior can do that they should be on the first due rig. You can do just as much if you are on another rig. As long as you get to the scene you can do your job. I'm two months away from being able to drive myself. Like people have said, you have a lot to learn. The few extra seconds you would gain from the blue light isn't worth it if you get in an accident responding. One of the perks of being a junior is learning. Learn as much as you can now so when you grow up and get the perk of responding on your own with a blue light you have all the knowledge and you can actually do something, you have so much more ahead of you.

                    Stay safe out there.

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