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  • Junior Firefighter with a radio on scene

    Before you tell me to go search the forums, I have read several posts about this topic, but never really got the direct answer I'm looking for.. How do you all feel about a Junior Firefighter grabbing a portable out of the truck on a call? Such as snagging a hydrant and waiting to be told to turn it on, or someone needs tools etc.. How do you feel about a Junior having a portable on them and just 'listening', not talking at ALL?
    Explorer and Junior Firefighter

  • #2
    Ask your chief

    Whatever his and dept policy is should be followed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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    • #3
      In my department, when on call with the ambulance or truck, we are allowed to use the spare radio or pager available, but as fire49 stated, it would be best to ask your chief about this
      No Whining
      No Excuses
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      • #4
        If a firefighter (Junior, Explorer, cadet, full) needs a radio for the job they are doing on a fire scene, give them a radio. If not, don't. This doesn't need to be complicated.

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        • #5
          I support it as long as all senior members that need a radio have one, then a junior can have one and if a junior wants to purchase a radio of his own or use a department radio then the department needs to teach them how to use a radio properly and teach the 10 codes or whatever the department uses
          MY VIEWS DO NOT REFLECT those of my department or association.
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          I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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          • #6
            I would agree talk to your officer about this first. If you department does not want you to carry one I would be very careful rocking the boat. Nothing worse than a probie or JR rocking the boat.

            That being said I do personally believe there is a positive thing to sitting and listening to the radio. I advise our guys to always listen to the fire ground chatter. You can learn how to communicate as your department expects. If you have a pager and they stay on the main when the fire is going on you could always switch to that channel. however I don't think there is many departments that don't go to a operations channel anymore.
            Brennan

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            • #7
              Great situational awareness. That's how we do it. The best part is if somebody does need you then they can call you over and you can acknowledge. But as fire49 said, ask your chief. The key with a radio is to stay off it unless required i.e. somebody directly addresses you or you need to advise the engineer that the 5" just blew and that he's not gonna have water for a couple of minutes while a new line is established to the hydrant. But definitely ask your chief.

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              • #8
                As long as you know how to use it, and need it for the task you are performing, I see no issue.

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                • #9
                  In my company, if we're on location of an incident I always put a radio on. If I am doing exterior work or on an EMS scene, I would like to know what is going on as chances are that we're not always within ten feet of each other. Now if you're not an officer, I personally don't think there is a need for you to transmit to dispatch. Similar to what everyone says, it is up to the Incident Commander. I personally see no problem with it. My company's SOP's state that the Hydrant Radio must be on the Central Band, which is what we use to communicate with incoming apparatus and dispatch. If that is the case in your company and you need to communicate, make sure that you have your communication skills down. Down take too long on the radio and speak clearly and correctly. Other than that, keep up what you're doing. If you're chief doesn't allow you to, don't get discouraged. It is all a matter of what your company allows. When it comes to juniors, a lot of companies are very weird with what they allow you to do, since in reality your still a kid. One thing that I was always told is that you have your whole life to be a hero. Keep up the great work!

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                  • #10
                    Department policy! pretty simple

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                    • #11
                      Definitely on department policy and the given situation. Some junior can perform well on times of need so they can be trained for specific tasks using radio.

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                      • #12
                        Do they need a radio? generally not. does it hurt to have one? generally not.

                        are they doing a task where a radio is appropriate, such as hitting a hydrant? then they should have a radio.

                        Good rule of thumb: if the truck has 4 seats, and 4 radios, take a radio. If there are three radios for 4 seats, you might not get a radio. if an interior FF or a senior FF doesn't have a radio and asks for yours, give it to them. if you are going inside a burning building, take a radio. doesn't matter if you are a junior or not.

                        If you want to listen to the radio traffic (and I do, especially to a major incident even if it's not my department), than go for it. don't transmit unless it's appropriate to. But ask your department what their feelings are on the issue.
                        If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by drparasite View Post
                          Do they need a radio? generally not. does it hurt to have one? generally not.

                          are they doing a task where a radio is appropriate, such as hitting a hydrant? then they should have a radio.

                          Good rule of thumb: if the truck has 4 seats, and 4 radios, take a radio. If there are three radios for 4 seats, you might not get a radio. if an interior FF or a senior FF doesn't have a radio and asks for yours, give it to them. if you are going inside a burning building, take a radio. doesn't matter if you are a junior or not.

                          If you want to listen to the radio traffic (and I do, especially to a major incident even if it's not my department), than go for it. don't transmit unless it's appropriate to. But ask your department what their feelings are on the issue.
                          Very true. They got to learn the importance of use of radio in appropriate time, especially on emergency.

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                          • #14
                            At my Department, if you go to a call, you better have a radio. A radio is your lifeline in case something happens or you see something that others may not. That being said , your Firefighters must be trained in the proper use of the radios. Especially calling a mayday etc. we don’t have a junior program at my Department but I am trying to get one started. Chief has the final say in Department SOP’s. But everyone should have a radio on scene, and know how to use them!

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                            • #15
                              debatable.

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