Leader

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse

Firehouse.com Forum Rules & Guidelines

Forum Rules & Guidelines

Not Permitted or Tolerated:
• Advertising and/or links of commercial, for-profit websites, products, and/or services is not permitted. If you have a need to advertise on Firehouse.com please contact [email protected]
• Fighting/arguing
• Cyber-bullying
• Swearing
• Name-calling and/or personal attacks
• Spamming
• Typing in all CAPS
• “l33t speak” - Substituting characters for letters in an effort to represent a word or phrase. (example: M*****ive)
• Distribution of another person’s personal information, regardless of whether or not said information is public knowledge and whether or not an individual has permission to post said personal information
• Piracy advocation of any kind
• Racist, sexual, hate type defamatory, religious, political, or sexual commentary.
• Multiple forum accounts

Forum Posting Guidelines:

Posts must be on-topic, non-disruptive and relevant to the firefighting community. Post only in a mature and responsible way that contributes to the discussion at hand. Posting relevant information, helpful suggestions and/or constructive criticism is a great way to contribute to the community.

Post in the correct forum and have clear titles for your threads.

Please post in English or provide a translation.

There are moderators and admins who handle these forums with care, do not resort to self-help, instead please utilize the reporting option. Be mature and responsible for yourself and your posts. If you are offended by another member utilize the reporting option. All reported posts will be addressed and dealt with as deemed appropriate by Firehouse.com staff.

Firehouse.com Moderation Process:
Effective immediately, the following moderation process will take effect. User(s) whose posts are determined by Firehouse.com staff to be in violation of any of the rules above will EARN the following reprimand(s) in the moderation process:
1. An initial warning will be issued.
2. A Final Warning will be issued if a user is found to be in violation a second time.
3. A 3-day suspension will be issued if the user continues to break the forum rules.
4. A 45-day suspension will be issued if the user is found to be a habitual rule breaker.
5. Habitual rule breakers that have exhausted all of the above will receive a permanent life-time ban that will be strictly enforced. Reinstatement will not be allowed – there is no appeal process.

Subsequent accounts created in an effort to side-step the rules and moderation process are subject to automatic removal without notice. Firehouse.com reserves the right to expedite the reprimand process for any users as it is deemed necessary. Any user in the moderation process may be required to review and agree to by email the terms and conditions listed above before their account is re-instated (except for those that are banned).

Firehouse.com reserves the right to edit and/or remove any post or member, at any time, for any reason without notice. Firehouse.com also reserves the right to warn, suspend, and/or ban, any member, at any time, for any reason.

Firehouse.com values the active participation we have in our forums. Please ensure your posts are tasteful and tactful. Thank you very much for your cooperation.
See more
See less

IAFF Membership

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • IAFF Membership

    My employer has threatened our line officers with formal discipline (termination/demotion) if they join our newly-formed local.

    Can a municipal government legally forbid line officers from joining an IAFF local?

    We've been through the discussion of creating a second local for the officers. However, we are a small department and would rather not pursue this option.

    FYI, we are not afforded collective bargaining rights.

    Thanks for your input.

    IM22

  • #2
    If it's written into the job description that certain positions fall outside of the bargaining unit, then they probably can. That would also likely preclude chartering a seperate local for the officers. Researching that is your first step.

    After you figure that out, your best bet is to contact your district VP for guidance.

    Good luck

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by IronsMan22 View Post
      My employer has threatened our line officers with formal discipline (termination/demotion) if they join our newly-formed local.

      Can a municipal government legally forbid line officers from joining an IAFF local?
      While it's possible that these position could be ineligible to join your Local, I'm pretty sure that the employer is not allowed to threaten discipline for joining a union.

      In addition to contacting your District VP, consulting a labor attorney and the local Labor Relations board for guidance could be beneficial. You may have an Unfair Labor Practice in progress because of this.

      If it helps any, there a many small Locals in my state in which everybody except the Fire Chief is in the Local.


      Have they given any reason for their opposition?
      Last edited by FireMedic049; 01-17-2012, 10:39 PM.

      Comment


      • #4
        They want nothing to do with the IAFF. As soon as our town manager caught wind of the plan, he instructed the chief to put an end to it. It was an effective tactic. All of our company officers suspended their membership as a result of the decree.

        We were very disappointed with this decision because we had no intention of creating an adversarial relationship. We hope to find an amicable solution to the problem.

        IM22

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by IronsMan22 View Post
          They want nothing to do with the IAFF. As soon as our town manager caught wind of the plan, he instructed the chief to put an end to it. It was an effective tactic. All of our company officers suspended their membership as a result of the decree.

          We were very disappointed with this decision because we had no intention of creating an adversarial relationship. We hope to find an amicable solution to the problem.

          IM22
          Did you mean that they stopped seeking membership rather than suspending their membership?

          I'd still discuss the matter with the people suggested because this sounds very much like intimidation and possibly coercion on the part of your fire chief and employer and should not be just ignored. If this is the case, you don't necessarily need to fully pursue charges on them. Just making them aware that they committed a serious violation of labor law and that you are considering filing charges could be leveraged to your advantage.

          Comment


          • #6
            It is illegal for the employer to threaten anyone during the formation of a Union of any sort. This is protected under Federal Labor laws. I would contact the IAFF directly and let them handle this. This is the sort of "sensational" thing that they love. Good luck.
            Jason Brooks
            IAFF Local 2388
            IACOJ

            Comment


            • #7
              You need to find out if you have any friends in city hall, get them on board. Also the citizens as well. And I'm sure other local's that are near you ( and maybe even some that are not ) would show up to meetings to show support. Don't back down.

              Comment

              300x600 Ad Unit (In-View)

              Collapse

              Upper 300x250

              Collapse

              Taboola

              Collapse

              Leader

              Collapse
              Working...
              X