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    Has anyone been through the National Fire Academy's Degrees at a Distance Program or the Fire Related Human Behavior Class, if so email me I have a few questions. Thanks
    Bo Vest

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    I have been through the DDP program through Western Illinois University, completed a Bachelor's of Arts in Fire Prevention Technology with a Minor in Fire Administration. I completed the Fire Related Human Behavior course as part of that program. What do you want to know?

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    • #3
      fire related human behavior

      Was Dr. Brakin your instructor ? This is just my second class to take in the DDP. I don't have a specific question about the course yet, I was just looking for anyone who had been through this class and might be able to offer some advice. When I signed up for it I thought it was going to be an easy class but as I'm getting further into the book it's starting to get a little confusing. Did you have any trouble with this class, other than the course guide what are some other books I need to purchase for research ? Thanks for your help.--- Robert
      Bo Vest

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      • #4
        I completed the program through Western Illinois University. I do not recall who the instructor was but I do not think anybody named Dr. Brakin teaches there. I thought it was a good class, didn't buy any other books besides what was required at registration. They get much harder than that one, wait for Analytical Approaches or Fire Dynamics. THose get interesting.

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        • #5
          I've heard that class was pretty intense. I talked to one person who suggested I take a statistics class before attempting the Analytical Approaches to Fire Dynamics class.
          Bo Vest

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          • #6
            I've never taken statistics, I got through it. Had a good instructor too. Does get pretty deep though.

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            • #7
              Fire Related Human Behavior

              E14Medic, I had the course through SUNY Empire State College. I don't remember it being too analytical or statistics oriented. Unless the colleges use their own discretion as far as what the instructors are allowed to teach, I can't see it being anything different than what is offered at the NFA.

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              • #8
                course description

                Here is the description on the course in the course catalog...

                Explore the interaction of traditional fire service concerns with a range of social sciences, relating theory to practice. Focus on the dynamics of human behavior during fire incidents and explore how these are related to fire prevention practices, programs, codes and ordinances. The psychological effects of communications during emergencies and the conduct of post-fire interviews with victims and fire fighters are studied in depth.

                Recommended: previous study in introductory psychology course and advanced technical understanding through fire training and experience. College Writing, Communication Decisions, Competition and Cooperation: A Cross-Cultural Perspective or equivalents

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                • #9
                  Salman1- you misread. I was not saying the Human Behavior course had anything to do with statistics or was analytical. I was referring to the other 2 courses I mentioned. Those very much do.

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                  • #10
                    Salman1- I'm taking the course through the University of Memphis, the course description listed in my brochure was basically the same as what you had posted. I wish I had researched this class a little more before signing up for it, I can defenitly see where a psychology class would have prepared me for some of the terminology used in this course. The topic for my final paper is "the study of human behavior in emergency situations". I am currently looking for resorces to use in this paper, got any good suggestions ? By the way thanks to everyone who has posted for your help.
                    Bo Vest

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by E14medic View Post
                      Salman1- I'm taking the course through the University of Memphis, the course description listed in my brochure was basically the same as what you had posted. I wish I had researched this class a little more before signing up for it, I can defenitly see where a psychology class would have prepared me for some of the terminology used in this course. The topic for my final paper is "the study of human behavior in emergency situations". I am currently looking for resorces to use in this paper, got any good suggestions ? By the way thanks to everyone who has posted for your help.
                      When I did my final paper for this class I wrote it about the MGM Grand Hotel fire . You may want to narrow your topic a little bit, but that is just a suggestion. PM me if you would like some help.

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                      • #12
                        did you get my PM ?
                        Bo Vest

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                        • #13
                          fire related human behavior

                          E14medic, I'm sure I received your PM but I may have inadvertently deleted it. Could you send it again? I don't think the psychology courses would actually help you much with your responses. My course materials were a binder of sources that are assembled into one reference. All, if not most, of my papers were based on that information. I did research additional sources to expand my knowledge base. Did you get that bound sourcebook in paperback? It doesn't come with a cover. If I can find it, I'll take a shot of it on digital and include it in the next response. You could use one particular fire for a source and write about that. How about the Station Nightclub Fire in Warwick, RI. That is the newest event and the video even backs it up with behavior that was apparent when you watch the video unfold. ie. altruistic behavior...most of the people that perished rushed to the exit that they were used to using because it was an entrance/exit that they used to come in. Most followed everyone else out of the main exit because altruism, at its best, pushed them to go where everyone else had gone to exit. Many survived because they chose alternate exits, either based on where they were when they had to exit, or they noticed the bottleneck at the front door. It could be a great research paper. If you need help, email me at [email protected]. It would be my pleasure to assist you...stay safe!

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                          • #14
                            I did my BS through the University of Cincinnati which is, or was part of the NFA Degree program. Great instructors (late 90's). Dr Kramer who is the head person of the program is a great guy and most of the books, examples, and classs work ties directly too operations and administration of larger metro type departments.

                            They are they only ones at the time I could get any info (accredation, and recognization) on when I went through. They basically do distance learning, you read the material and send in assignments, followed by an exam proctered to you. They also have residency classes in different parts of the US where you go for a week, 8-5 to go through one class start to finish. Alot of networking and sharing ideas there. Though I do confess being from a small rural department, it was not really geared for the different types of leadership and administration. Good program overall for someone in a medium to larger department looking to advance I think.

                            For a person from a smaller department, it depends on the department and politics. Its hard to standardize experience/training/knowledge levels when the leadership themselves choses to make at least FF 1 a requirement for chief, let alone any other type education/training/experience. YMMV

                            If you need any other info about Univ of Cinci's program drop me a pm.

                            Murphy

                            Yes, I know Murphys Laws...Who do you think wrote them?

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