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MalahatTwo7
02-20-2008, 08:59 AM
Ok I'm not one to normally use profanity in a public forum, and I apologize in advance for that, but....... :mad: This sort of thing frosts my whatzits.

Oath to Queen could be on the way out. Ontario Court of Appeal rejects attempt to have lower court's ruling overturned

Joseph Brean, Canwest News Service Published: Wednesday, February 20, 2008

TORONTO -- The Queen's place in Canada is going to trial, now that the federal government has failed to stop a Charter of Rights and Freedoms challenge of the citizenship oath's reference to the monarchy.

Three judges of the Ontario Court of Appeal denied the federal attorney general's request yesterday to dismiss the case by overturning a lower court ruling that allowed it to proceed.

Brought by Charles Roach, a Toronto lawyer who objects to the monarchy's connection to slavery, the case has rallied the diverse forces of Canadian republicanism, from Irish and Indian nationalism to casual distaste for monarchies.

Without even hearing from Roach's lawyer and daughter, Kikelola Roach, the judges upheld an earlier ruling, and dismissed the government's appeal, calling the case a "straightforward, charter-based constitutional challenge of a federal law," and not a dispute over the conduct of federal officials.

As Associate Chief Justice Dennis O'Connor put it: "There's nothing, quote, citizenshippy about it."

To overturn this ruling, the government would now have to go to the Supreme Court of Canada.

The ruling means the class action, in which damages of $5,000 are being sought for people who have refused to swear the oath or swore it under duress, now can proceed in the Ontario Superior Court.

As the test case, Roach, 74, a permanent resident of Canada who was born a British subject in Trinidad and emigrated to Canada more than 50 years ago, argues the requirement to swear an oath to the Queen violates the charter's freedom of conscience provision.

New Canadian citizens must swear an oath to "be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, her heirs and successors."

© Times Colonist (Victoria) 2008

As some of our Esteemed Colleagues have said: "You don't like it? GO BACK HOME!"

voyager9
02-20-2008, 09:09 AM
As some of our Esteemed Colleagues have said: "You don't like it? GO BACK HOME!"

Seems simple to me: No swear, no citizenship. You don't _have_ to swear an oath, but Canada doesn't _have_ to make you a citizen either.

It'd be the same as someone coming into the US and not wanting to swear an oath to the Constitution. Get the F-out then..

Then again, isn't Canada the 52nd state yet?

MalahatTwo7
02-20-2008, 09:27 AM
Then again, isn't Canada the 52nd state yet?

No but I think we're work'n on it. :D Although rumour had it the US was going to become the 14th Canadian Province... so who knows? :) and ya know, things are less expensive north over the border. eheheheheehee

Ladder8
02-20-2008, 12:18 PM
No but I think we're work'n on it. :D Although rumour had it the US was going to become the 14th Canadian Province... so who knows? :) and ya know, things are less expensive north over the border. eheheheheehee

I dunno Rick, I think it's the other way 'round....


BTW, "Roach" - what an appropriate name.

MalahatTwo7
02-20-2008, 12:52 PM
I dunno Rick, I think it's the other way 'round....


BTW, "Roach" - what an appropriate name.


Ya, maybe today it is. But after you guys finally get through your elections, I suspect that things will revert to their orignial "settings".

Today's Bank of Canada exchange rate for $100.00 USD to CAD:

Summary:
On 19 Feb 2008, 100.00 U.S. dollar(s) = 101.60 Canadian dollar(s), at an exchange rate of 1.0160 (using nominal rate.)
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Last Updated: Tuesday February 19, 2008

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superchef
02-20-2008, 04:26 PM
: This sort of thing frosts my whatzits!"


Frozen Canadian whatzits. You know, this could lead to all sorts of visions in my mind. :D

MalahatTwo7
02-20-2008, 04:30 PM
As it should be. :o :D

firecat1
02-20-2008, 06:05 PM
Ok I'm not one to normally use profanity in a public forum, and I apologize in advance for that, but....... :mad: This sort of thing frosts my whatzits.



As some of our Esteemed Colleagues have said: "You don't like it? GO BACK HOME!"

Easy Rick, go home and have some of that prime Scotch I know you keep around and defrost your whatzits. Like you said, if they don't like it, they can turn around and leave.

ndvfdff33
02-20-2008, 06:51 PM
As some of our Esteemed Colleagues have said: "You don't like it? GO BACK HOME!"

Amen buddy. First it's the troll from RMC who doesn't think the Forces should have to pay respects to the Queen and now this. Does it ever end???:eek:

MalahatTwo7
02-21-2008, 08:51 AM
Amen buddy. First it's the troll from RMC who doesn't think the Forces should have to pay respects to the Queen and now this. Does it ever end???:eek:

Ya know, when I saw the headline, that is almost exactly the words I had, and was expecting to read about that same individual.


I wonder: Do Commonwealth Firing Squads use ammunition with the Queen's Coat of Arms embossed on the casing? :p



OH WAIT! DANG! We don't use firing squads anymore. More's the pity. :D
{insert your level of sarcasm here}

ThNozzleman
02-21-2008, 02:37 PM
Off with their heads!!!

ndvfdff33
02-21-2008, 06:24 PM
Ya know, when I saw the headline, that is almost exactly the words I had, and was expecting to read about that same individual.


I wonder: Do Commonwealth Firing Squads use ammunition with the Queen's Coat of Arms embossed on the casing? :p



OH WAIT! DANG! We don't use firing squads anymore. More's the pity. :D
{insert your level of sarcasm here}

Maybe I can get all these guys to come to my work place and I'll try to get them to walk between the props of a Herc when it's starting up. End of story. :D I'm sure they are dumb enough to do it.