Hebron hiring

[Spatch713]

The Town of Hebron is seeking candidates for a full-time position of the Fire Department/EMT/Maintainer. The position prepares for and responds to and performs required functions at emergency fire, ambulance and rescue calls, service calls and performs such other fire service duties as defined in the General Statutes as a volunteer Firefighter/EMT. The position performs general maintenance work and upkeep of the fire department buildings, vehicles and equipment and alarm systems, including appropriate record keeping. Compensation $33,000-$40,000, depending upon qualifications and experience, plus full benefits. The applicant must have the following to apply for this position, State of Connecticut Firefighter I and Firefighter II certification; current valid EMT certification; valid CT driver license with a Q restriction, Class 1 A or B is preferred; and a CPAT card obtained since March 2007 or be able to obtain one by May 2008. Please send resumes, copies of certifications, CT Driers License, current EMT and CPAT cards to the attention of Jared Clark, Town Manager, 15 Gilead Street, Hebron, CT 06248 by Wednesday November 21, 2007. For further information please visit www.hebronct.com. The town of Hebron is an equal opportunity employer.

[scotts48]

way to go hebron!!! Bone your own guys out of a job in their own town.

[DeputyMarshal]

way to go hebron!!! Bone your own guys out of a job in their own town.

Funny, I don't see anything preventing the guys in Hebron from applying for the job...

[scotts48]

the person or persons that im referring to know what im talking about....i really care not to discuss further. the above posting is not what is on their website

[DeputyMarshal]

the person or persons that im referring to know what im talking about....i really care not to discuss further. the above posting is not what is on their website

Ah, I should have guessed: It's another conspiracy. :rolleyes:

It sure looks like what's posted on their website...

TOWN OF HEBRON
FIREFIGHTER/EMT/MAINTAINER
The Town of Hebron is seeking candidates for the full-time position of Fire Department
Firefighter/EMT/Maintainer. This position performs general maintenance work and upkeep of
the fire department buildings, vehicles and equipment and alarm systems, including appropriate
record keeping. The position prepares for and responds to and performs required functions at
emergency fire, ambulance and rescue calls, service calls and performs such other fire service
duties as defined in the General Statutes as a volunteer firefighter/EMT. Compensation $33,000
to $40,000, depending upon qualifications and experience, plus full benefits. Must have a
current CPAT Card. State of Connecticut Firefighter I certification is required and EMT
certification and Class II Connecticut Motor Vehicle License is preferred. Please send resumes,
copies of certification and CPAT Card to the attention of Jared Clark, Town Manager, 15 Gilead
Street, Hebron, CT 06248 by Wednesday, November 21, 2007. For further information please
visit www.hebronct.com. The Town of Hebron is an equal opportunity employer.

http://www.hebronct.com/employpdfs/FireMaintainer.pdf

[scotts48]

read it again.......its not the same

[DeputyMarshal]

read it again.......its not the same

Identical? No.

So what? The posted version looks like either an earlier draft or a sloppy copying job (very possible given the spelling errors) but the information is the same and the posted version sends anyone interested to the right place for more information.

There's nothing there to justify the "Bone your own guys out of a job in their own town" remark. (But then I've yet to see you have anything good to say about any department in the eastern half of the state so I'm not surprised.)

[scotts48]

i happen to know alittle bit about this department. Seeing as though i used to live there. the good old boys club is trying to exclude people from the process despite what that posting says or doesnt say. call it opinionated, call it what ever. isnt that the point of these forums? so **** it, i really dont care. i know what i know and you know what you know. agree to disagree and forget about it.

[PapaGanoush]

Are they allowed to require the CPAT? It's not for an IAFF position. I hope they received proper approval for using it.

[PapaGanoush]

http://www.iaff.org/hs/well/cpatlicensestory.htm

[PapaGanoush]

http://www.iaff.org/hs/well/statelist.htm

Hebron's not listed as a holding a license to use it the CPAT.

[DeputyMarshal]

Are they allowed to require the CPAT? It's not for an IAFF position. I hope they received proper approval for using it.

Good point. But, then again, they're requiring CT FFI certification and that's technically a conflict with EOE.

[scotts48]

great info papa......and deputy

[KeithA8]

Huh! That's funny West Hartford isn't licensed either! Neither is Hartford or Norwalk! And they have all used it. Notice that the Connecticut fire Academy is though. Why would that be? They don't require it to be an employee there. Maybe since they run it - it gives them the authority to use it for whoever wants it. I don't realy have an answer I'm just thinking out loud.

Scotts,
What's your issue with Hebron? It doesn't sound to me that they are profiling to get who they want. They are just asking for the basic certs and licenses so they can go right on the line and save in training costs.

[DeputyMarshal]

Huh! That's funny West Hartford isn't licensed either! Neither is Hartford or Norwalk! And they have all used it. Notice that the Connecticut fire Academy is though. Why would that be? They don't require it to be an employee there. Maybe since they run it - it gives them the authority to use it for whoever wants it. I don't realy have an answer I'm just thinking out loud.

CFA has a limited license to administer the CPAT on behalf of other departments thatare hiring but a condition of that limited license is that they're only supposed to be doing so on behalf of departments that hold their own licenses. The cities you mentioned are legally in violation of the IAFF/IAFC's copyrights over CPAT if they're using it as a condition of employment. That might be something you should pursue with your local -- West Hartford should get a license if it's going to use CPAT.

[nmfire]

The only thing different is the website doesn't say anything about a Q-Restriction. Other than, it is the same. There is nothing on either that disqualifies their own people.

So how about this scotts. Shut up or explain what you think the problem is. Just throwing out some arbitrary and unsubstantiated complaint means nothing to anyone.

[KenNFD1219]

I filled out the license application for my department a couple of years ago. It took all of 10 minutes and there is no cost. The license keeps us in compliance with the licensing agreement to use CPAT. This would be a great benefit if someone were to sue the town over hiring practices, specifically on the use of CPAT and their inability to pass the test.

[scotts48]

NM, if you read back a few posts this item was discussed and i wished not to discuss further and it was dealt with, I have my reasons based on my dealings with them. After all it is a free world and opinions are supposed to be welcome no matter what they may be. I respect your opinion and you should respect mine. Besides we're on the topic now of Cpat.


Keith,
Check your PM

[Mycareer]

scotts48

I have to agree with some of the guys above. I read these posts once or twice a week. you really have lot to b**ch about, not getting hired, other dept issues. Still trying after 7 years. Maybe the Fire Service doesn't want you. "The world needs ditch diggers too"

[scotts48]

doesnt bother me that you agree and your entitled to your opinion too, however get your info right. I am involved in the fire service and i get paid for it too . Imagine that. Further more i have held a cpat for the last 7 years so that isnt my issue. my bitch is about/for a friend of mine , and another issue (in which im not discussing)that relates to me personally, which ultimatly leads to my hostility to this department. This has been beaten up enough, does anyone have anything positive to say?

"the world needs ditch diggers too" You think that line up all by yourself? Give yourself a pat on the back. You made me smile.

[DeputyMarshal]

I am involved in the fire service and i get paid for it too .

Why am I picturing a UTC square badge? :cool:

[scotts48]

Now your going to throw shots?

"IAFF, IAFC, NFPA, ICC, ARRL, NESA, CFMA"

Why am i picturing a career whacker?


Too bad they're not square....would have been a good one if it was true.

[DeputyMarshal]

Yep, I thought so...

Direct hit, I rest my case. :rolleyes:

[scotts48]

Ill be the adult and walk away.....

if you have something to say to me Deputy PM me.......and we will talk privately

[DeputyMarshal]

if you have something to say to me Deputy PM me.......and we will talk privately

Not a thing. Good luck getting on the job one day! :)

[scotts48]

Why thank you Deputy.

FYI-That pic isnt even close.

[nmfire]

Good. Walk away from this. You not being here will be just as productive as when you were here. You've added nothing to this thread. You threw out some harsh insult towards the department and now you're to afraid to actually back up what you said. You are nothing more than a waste of bandwidth if that is the best you can do.

[Ramrod360]

They Want Alot For Lousy Pay Isn"t 33k Below Poverty Level In This State.

[PapaGanoush]

i have held a cpat for the last 7 years

Yeah, MyCareer! Get your facts right!

Sponge Bob Square Badge has been trying for MORE than 7 years to get on the job! The 7 years was just how long he's wasted money on CPAT tests.

[Mycareer]

Scotts48, I apologize I should have credited the quote to
" The Honorable Judge Smails"
A Founding Member of Bushwood Country Club:)

[lieutleroy140]

Correct, Judge Ellehew Smails founded and built Bushwood. He did this with Ty Webb's father, who he also went to school with and played golf with, and who by the way never liked the Judge........

Sorry, one of my top 5 movies.......


Leroy

[KeithA8]

Ramrod,
It's non-union. The pay does suck but I think it's on par for the type of dept it is. Look at Middletown, Meriden, Willimantic. They all suck too. Meriden is a great dept but the pay is loooooooooooowwwwww. I've heard Hebrons top step is around $50k. I don't know for sure, but I've heard through the grape vine.

[Mfire138]

I thought Hebron was affliated with Local 3831?

[KeithA8]

Nope! They had the oppurtunity to join the IAFF but decided not to.